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Where would Richie Martin fit on the O's top 30?

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22 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Martin is the A's #12 prospect.   You can read about him here:   http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=oak

I have Martin at #7 on the my O's top 30 prospect list.   How could Elias not select him if he falls in the O's Top 10?

Because there’s someone he likes better?   Because his opinion of Martin isn’t as high as yours?

All will be revealed next Thursday.  

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34 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Because there’s someone he likes better?   Because his opinion of Martin isn’t as high as yours?

All will be revealed next Thursday.  

You didn't answer the title question.  Where would you place Martin in the O's top 30?

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11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

You didn't answer the title question.  Where would you place Martin in the O's top 30?

First of all, let me say that I don’t consider my opinions on minor leaguers to be very well educated. My opinions come from looking at stats, age compared to level, and then reading opinions about the player’s defense and room for development.   

With all that said, I’d probably have Martin in the 12-15 range.    He never hit before this year, people like Luke don’t think he’ll be much of an offensive threat based on watching him, and he’s not particularly young in AA at 23.   It seems like he’d be very solid defensively.   

I’m not necessarily against picking the guy, since improving the defense at SS is a priority.   But I can’t say if he’s the best Rule 5 guy out there.    It’s Elias’ job to figure that out, not people like me.

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17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

First of all, let me say that I don’t consider my opinions on minor leaguers to be very well educated. My opinions come from looking at stats, age compared to level, and then reading opinions about the player’s defense and room for development.   

With all that said, I’d probably have Martin in the 12-15 range.    He never hit before this year, people like Luke don’t think he’ll be much of an offensive threat based on watching him, and he’s not particularly young in AA at 23.   It seems like he’d be very solid defensively.   

I’m not necessarily against picking the guy, since improving the defense at SS is a priority.   But I can’t say if he’s the best Rule 5 guy out there.    It’s Elias’ job to figure that out, not people like me.

I assume that Luke and Tony would have him in our 20s. I’d love to hear. 

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3 minutes ago, weams said:

I assume that Luke and Tony would have him in our 20s. I’d love to hear. 

Luke already said he wouldn’t put Martin in his top 5 of players eligible for the Rule 5 draft.   Not sure what that means in terms of where he’d rank on our prospects list.

 

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Martin seems like an interesting pick for a team like the Orioles who has a need at SS. I've never seen him play, but if he really is a defense first SS, he would be an easier fit on a team that could use a good young defensive SS. Makes me wonder though, why would the A's not protect him but protect a guy like outfielder Sky Bolt (#30 Pipeline)?

Just looking at the stats and pedigree, I'm missing something here on either Martin or Bolt. Unless there is some hole to Martin's game that the Orioles don't think he can overcome (could be the bat still since he had a high BABIP and was in the Texas League), he seems like an easy rule 5 pick that should be able to make the club as the everyday SS or at least utility guy. 

His bat will probably be a negative next year, but if his defense is as good as advertised by several sources, then I think the O's nab him with the first overall pick. Will definitely be interesting to see who Elias picks though.

Oh, and I'd probably have Martin as #16 on our list unless I was convinced his bat will eventually play better. I haven't done a ton of homework on him so I would say it would be a preliminary ranking.

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5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Martin seems like an interesting pick for a team like the Orioles who has a need at SS. I've never seen him play, but if he really is a defense first SS, he would be an easier fit on a team that could use a good young defensive SS. Makes me wonder though, why would the A's not protect him but protect a guy like outfielder Sky Bolt (#30 MLB Pipeline)?

Why?   Because his name is Sky Bolt!    How can you not keep a guy with that name?

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