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This is an apparent list of Free Agent pitchers.  Any of them worth signing?  Would any of them sign for minimum?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/available/

We're starting to get dangerously thin on stable starter options.  Its not about winning, but if we can't eat some innings, it starts to hurt development.  Cashner, Bundy, Means is a fairly stable top 3, averaging 5-6 innings.  But beyond that, do we really think someone is going to step up out of Ynoa, Hess, Ortiz, or Rogers? Ramirez is already gone.  Seems like they are starting to lean towards using Yac in the bullpen.  Maybe Gilmartin steps up big tonight.

What do we have at AAA?  Luis Ysla? Tyler Herb? Chandler Shepard?  Are you kidding me?  They aren't the answer.  I'm hoping Eshelman can step up and offer a few quality starts.  I saw give Keegan Akin a shot too. He's 24, its his 4th year in the organization, and he's striking people out at 11.1 K/9 clip.  

Signing Straily was a good idea that went horribly wrong.  I think they were hoping for a 5-6 inning guy who kept an ERA under 6.   Is there a free agent worth signing on that list who can eat some innings? I know a lot of those names struggled with injury.  Are any currently working out and trying to stay in shape?  How long would it take them to get ready?  Is Bartolo retired? After Shields and him, Gallardo and McCarthy have thrown the most innings recently.

Heading out of the All Star break it would be nice to see Means, Bundy, Cashner, Eshelman, Added Free Agent pitcher.  If Cashner or Bundy is traded, Akin can be called up. Elias might find a sneaky way to acquire some more AAA/AAAA options.  I don't think he's interested in starting the clock on any of his AA prospects.

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2 minutes ago, Philip said:

Oh I didn’t suggest that he wasn’t. I just don’t think Scott should be the choice.

Bullpen game? Is that when the bullpen starts the game then the starter comes in later? I’ve heard the term but can’t remember just what bullpen game means.

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2 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

Bullpen game? Is that when the bullpen starts the game then the starter comes in later? I’ve heard the term but can’t remember just what bullpen game means.

A Bullpen Game is when a team uses just Bullpen Pieces for the game,  An opener game is as you described it.

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1 minute ago, thezeroes said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/samarje01.shtml

Some players do get it right after a few years of recalls.

Yes, certainly Randy Johnson did, but most do not. There is a wide span between success at AAA and success in the big leagues.

If we sat down and made a list of the guys in the upper oriole system probably we’re not going to span that gap, it would be a pretty big list. 

It remains to be seen where Scott is going to end up, I hope he does well in this stint.

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How does a pitcher prepare for what he is going to see at the MLB Level if he does not get the chances to iron the wrinkles out??? 

 

Not every one that gets promoted instantly has success and not everyone that gets multiple chances , stick.  At some point the proof will be in the performance but with out allowing the performer to perform, you never know.

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34 minutes ago, Philip said:

What has Scott shown that indicates he’s a productive member of a good team?

Don’t get me wrong, I want him to do well, but when he’s up with the big team, he doesn’t.

What’s being on a good team have to do with anything?

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34 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

How does a pitcher prepare for what he is going to see at the MLB Level if he does not get the chances to iron the wrinkles out??? 

 

Not every one that gets promoted instantly has success and not everyone that gets multiple chances , stick.  At some point the proof will be in the performance but with out allowing the performer to perform, you never know.

Well that’s certainly true, but at what point does one say, “OK he’s had some chances let’s try the next guy”?

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50 minutes ago, Philip said:

What has Scott shown that indicates he’s a productive member of a good team?

Don’t get me wrong, I want him to do well, but when he’s up with the big team, he doesn’t.

Nothing wrong with being negative about this team.  There is a lot of that going around.   

I just think Scott has done what he needed to over the last month to get another chance in the majors.

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16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

What’s being on a good team have to do with anything?

 Well presumably we are looking for guys who have the potential to be on our next competitive team. Of the current 25 man roster, I am unsure how many guys have that potential. When we look at the 40 man, I am unsure how many guys have that potential as well. There are a lot of guys with upside, but they are farther away with lots of potential pitfalls between here in there.

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