Hunter Harvey the reliever

[TonySoprano]

First career win.

[spiritof66]

12 hours ago, DirtyBird said:

Probably had something to do with him not being a very good starter.

I caught Harvey's first game and part of his appearance last night, and I've seen some MiL clips. Not a lot of exposure, but FWIW to me the amount of effort-vs.-ease in his delivery seems to fall within he normal range for a 2019 one-inning reliever. 

The starter/reliever distinction has softened a bit with the use of openers. Additional new roles may emerge, especially if there are rule changes about roster size and when or how many pitching changes can be made. I can imagine Harvey filling one of those new roles, possibly pitching three innings every few days. Meanwhile, let's see him succeed as a reliever in higher leverage situations against good teams. 

In any event, it's refreshing to see a pitcher come up through the system (even if it took what seems like an awful long time) about whom nobody says "I never want to see this guy again" or "He's not somebody I expect to be around on the next good/decent/contending Oriole team." And I don't recall anyone asking what we can get if we trade him for prospects. I fully expect that possibility will be raised if Harvey shows he is an effective ML reliever since the period of effectiveness for such hard throwers, especially those with injuries in their backgrounds, can be brief. But for now I'm just enjoying -- and, admittedly, the bar for enjoyment over the 2019 Orioles is low -- seeing an Oriole generate some excitement at the ML level without speculation as to how useful he'll be as a trade chip. 

By the way, I'm finding it hard to believe Harvey is only 24 (25 in December) since it seems like he was drafted 10 years ago. I just looked it up for at least the fourth time this season. He also doesn't look 6'4" to me.

[Frobby]

Just now, spiritof66 said:

By the way, I'm finding it hard to believe Harvey is only 24 (25 in December) since it seems like he was drafted 10 years ago. I just looked it up for at least the fourth time this season. He also doesn't look 6'4" to me.

It’s sort of ironic that Harvey got his first win in relief of Bundy.    Here are two guys who after one year in the minors looked like they were going to rocket to the major leagues.   And then both got seriously derailed by injuries.     At least it seems like Harvey retained all of his stuff    

Then our other pitcher last night was Givens, our former no. 2 pick who was delayed getting to the majors because he switched from the infield to the mound.

Things don’t always turn out as planned.

 

[atomic]

I think we might have 5 guys on the pitching staff worthy of being back on the team next year.

Harvey, Bundy, Means, Givens and Castro. 

If Harvey keeps pitching well it might strengthen Givens as he won't have to pitch multiple innings if Hyde has someone else h can trust to get anyone out   

Hopefully by the start of next year we can add some pitchers to the team that can get guys out.  Set-up guys can be had cheap.  At least the team needs to add to the bullpen. 

[MurphDogg]

12 minutes ago, atomic said:

I think we might have 5 guys on the pitching staff worthy of being back on the team next year.

Harvey, Bundy, Means, Givens and Castro. 

If Harvey keeps pitching well it might strengthen Givens as he won't have to pitch multiple innings if Hyde has someone else h can trust to get anyone out   

Hopefully by the start of next year we can add some pitchers to the team that can get guys out.  Set-up guys can be had cheap.  At least the team needs to add to the bullpen. 

Paul Fry has had two bad outings in a row, prior to that he had a better ERA than Castro and Givens, and he was very good last year. He definitely will be penciled in for next season, as will Cobb if healthy.

Not sure I am ready to give up on Bleier either, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. Tough to ignore his success prior to this season.

[DrungoHazewood]

7 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Not sure I am ready to give up on Bleier either, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. Tough to ignore his success prior to this season.

I assumed his success prior to this season involved claymation and CGI.

[MCO'sFan]

2 hours ago, ChuckS said:

I’d describe it as high effort from what I saw last night. Not exactly smooth. 

Agree to disagree. I think it is smooth or maybe a better word is "connected". Different words having different meanings to people. He is throwing 100 so there's obviously tremendous arm speed. He is not high effort like some (Scott) etc who throw like their hair is on fire. But, that's just my observations/opinion. 

[Tony-OH]

13 hours ago, Going Underground said:

His delivery is pretty violent .A better version of Jimmy Yacobonis.No way with that delivery could he be a major league starter.Might play for awhile as a reliever. 

Wow. Let's just say you and and every baseball scout who ever scouted a game of baseball would have a different opinion of a "violent delivery." Using Yacobonis' delivery in a similar sense to Harvey's delivery is akin to saying that Eric Bell was a similar pitcher as Scott McGregor. 

[Frobby]

30 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Paul Fry has had two bad outings in a row, prior to that he had a better ERA than Castro and Givens, and he was very good last year. He definitely will be penciled in for next season, as will Cobb if healthy.

Not sure I am ready to give up on Bleier either, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. Tough to ignore his success prior to this season.

I hope you are writing in Cobb in very light pencil.

[Jagwar]

I won't get excited until Harvey at least shows he can throw a secondary pitch for a strike

[hoosiers]

You know that moment when you see a building block fit into place - a block that you know you can compete against the Yankees with.  We need another 12-15 guys like that, but Harvey can bring it.

[ShaneDawg85]

2 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

First career win.

Anyone else look at the one picture and think that was blood flowing down the drain?  As in Harvey either got busted open or they were pouring blood on him?  I see from the one picture it's obviously not, but that's not what my eyes first saw.

[Tony-OH]

7 minutes ago, ShaneDawg85 said:

Anyone else look at the one picture and think that was blood flowing down the drain?  As in Harvey either got busted open or they were pouring blood on him?  I see from the one picture it's obviously not, but that's not what my eyes first saw.

Somebody is pouring catsup on him.

[weams]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I hope you are writing in Cobb in very light pencil.

Magic Ink?

[Going Underground]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Somebody is pouring catsup on him.

And the pieing was going too far?