The extra inning runner on 2B rule

[DrungoHazewood]

11 hours ago, Hallas said:

what, you're saying they didn't have multicolored compression shirts in 1870????

Tangent... sometime in the 1880s the NL tried a scheme where players at different positions wore different brightly colored/striped/etc uniforms.  It didn't last long before they realized that the guy standing near second base was probably the second baseman no matter what shirt he was wearing.

[DrungoHazewood]

8 hours ago, Chavez Ravine said:

Another approach that I would prefer would be to declare a tie after (insert inning you feel appropriate) and have a points system for the pennant. That keeps all the data collection more consistent. A 13th inning in 1986 was played under the same rules (If not the same pharmacology) as a 13th inning in 2026. I think it is also more honest. We just don’t want the game to go on any longer, and we are fed up watching the dudes in this current game: tie!!

I don't mind that at all.  But we have had a nice conversation about the new strategies that have/will arise from this new situation.

[Chavez Ravine]

3 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I don't mind that at all.  But we have had a nice conversation about the new strategies that have/will arise from this new situation.

The more I think about it, maybe putting a guy on second is the best all around solution? Seems like there are three potential goals: 1) get the game to end soon; 2) increase the excitement level of extra innings; 3) force some new approaches or strategies in extra innings.

A tie obviously  sits in one corner of that space. A guy on second helps things to come to a conclusion and it adds some immediate pressure to each inning, although the strategy shifts seem marginal at the moment. 

[LocoChris]

On 8/3/2020 at 11:09 AM, DrungoHazewood said:

This looks exactly like baseball. If you went to the bathroom at the start of the 10th inning you wouldn't even know the rule changed.

How'd the runner get on second? What did he do to get on base? Why is he out there?

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, LocoChris said:

How'd the runner get on second? What did he do to get on base? Why is he out there?

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, LocoChris said:

How'd the runner get on second? What did he do to get on base? Why is he out there?

If I was watching the game with a staunch traditionalist I'd just tell them that he lined the ball off the top of the CF wall, he fell down rounding first, the CFer dropped it, then threw it to the wrong guy, there was a three minute rundown he escaped from... man, you picked a wrong moment to go to the head.

[VaBird1]

1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

If I was watching the game with a staunch traditionalist I'd just tell them that he lined the ball off the top of the CF wall, he fell down rounding first, the CFer dropped it, then threw it to the wrong guy, there was a three minute rundown he escaped from... man, you picked a wrong moment to go to the head.

Another to keep on your pocket could be:
All of the infielders were on on side of the field and he hit a dribbler just over the base into the outfield.  By the time the fielders got to the ball he just squeaked in to second by running hard out of the box.

[Frobby]

Still loving this rule.    Really makes extra innings more exciting IMO.

[Oriole1940]

If people have to change the rules to enjoy something that for hundreds of years has been more than enough for generations of people worldwide, then I suggest to those people to get a more exciting sport to follow.  

 

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Oriole1940 said:

If people have to change the rules to enjoy something that for hundreds of years has been more than enough for generations of people worldwide, then I suggest to those people to get a more exciting sport to follow.  

 

You’re right, god forbid that a sport change a single rule in 150 years!  Shall we roll back the DH?

[LocoChris]

I still hate it. Makes it feel like a kick ball game in a high school gym class. 

[fansince71]

1 hour ago, LocoChris said:

I still hate it. Makes it feel like a kick ball game in a high school gym class. 

I think it’s here to stay and that comparison is loco.

[DrungoHazewood]

7 hours ago, Oriole1940 said:

If people have to change the rules to enjoy something that for hundreds of years has been more than enough for generations of people worldwide, then I suggest to those people to get a more exciting sport to follow.  

 

Isn't that exactly the problem?  When baseball had essentially no competition it was the most popular team sport.  As football, basketball, hockey, soccer have gotten more exposure and have become legitimate alternatives more and more people choose the sports where the game is either over in two hours, is full of more action or they only play once a week. Baseball attendance has been in decline for a decade, and ratings have always been very localized.  Nobody in Atlanta watches a Mariners-Twins game, not like Falcons fans would watch a Seahawks-Vikings game.

So many, many people have taken your advice and moved on to something else that doesn't take four hours, with 90 minutes of pitching changes and figuring out the signs and adjusting your batting glove.  And there's always the possibility the game will go 14 innings and last six and half hours. 

You might be happy with that, but owners and players who want expanded revenues and fans who'd like a nice 2-hour baseball game probably aren't.

[DrungoHazewood]

4 hours ago, fansince71 said:

I think it’s here to stay and that comparison is loco.

When basketball added the shot clock the first thing I thought of was how it was now the same as bouncing balls on a parachute in 3rd grade P.E.

[Moose Milligan]

I still like it, too.  It makes teams play small-ball.  And if you're the home team and the visiting team scores in the top half, you still feel like you've got a shot, even if you have the bottom third of the lineup coming up.

 

18 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

When basketball added the shot clock the first thing I thought of was how it was now the same as bouncing balls on a parachute in 3rd grade P.E.

The big rainbow colored parachute?!!?!??!?!?!? And then after you'd bounce the balls on it, you'd all stand around in a circle and throw it up really high and then run under it and set on the edge so it'd be a big bubble that'd slowly deflate?