Jahmai Jones 2021

[ChipTait]

On 6/23/2021 at 9:06 PM, Yardball85 said:

Jones should be up here playing second base every day.  It's not like he can't learn and improve at the position while with major league coaches.

 He's been putting on a defensive clinic this evening in Memphis.  A couple of far-ranging stops on sharply hit balls.  (Along with a double & a dinger at the plate!)

[Ruzious]

9 hours ago, ChipTait said:

 He's been putting on a defensive clinic this evening in Memphis.  A couple of far-ranging stops on sharply hit balls.  (Along with a double & a dinger at the plate!)

Meh, why bother with a 23 year old 2nd baseman with a .400 OBP in AAA, 15 XBH's in 133 at bats, 7 steals in 8 attempts, improving defense, and all kinds of tools?   Afterall, we've got Valaika.  

[wildcard]

I don't think its the spectacular plays that the O's are worried about.  Its can Jones make the plays that a major league 2nd baseman are supposed to make on a consistent basis that they want to see him make.  So far Jones has played 26 games at 2B for Norfolk.   He has 6 errors for a.940 fielding percentage.    That needs to improve.

[Yardball85]

11 hours ago, ChipTait said:

 He's been putting on a defensive clinic this evening in Memphis.  A couple of far-ranging stops on sharply hit balls.  (Along with a double & a dinger at the plate!)

But but but... we have sooooo much to gain from keeping Valaika at second instead and letting Jones continue to rake in Norfolk and not get experience up here!

[jamalshw]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

I don't think its the spectacular plays that the O's are worried about.  Its can Jones make the plays that a major league 2nd baseman are supposed to make on a consistent basis that they want to see him make.  So far Jones has played 26 games at 2B for Norfolk.   He has 6 errors for a.940 fielding percentage.    That needs to improve.

This is fair. I'd still prefer to see him gain the experience and do the work with the Orioles than in Norfolk. 

[Yossarian]

4 hours ago, Ruzious said:

Meh, why bother with a 23 year old 2nd baseman with a .400 OBP in AAA, 15 XBH's in 133 at bats, 7 steals in 8 attempts, improving defense, and all kinds of tools?   Afterall, we've got Valaika.  

Maybe we can move him and get some good young talent to bolster the minor league system.  He might have some good trade value.

[Ruzious]

2 hours ago, Yossarian said:

Maybe we can move him and get some good young talent to bolster the minor league system.  He might have some good trade value.

Yes, we need more OFers for the minor leagues.   

He might end up failing at 2nd base, but... he might not, and we got nothing else to try at the moment, so... see what he can do in Baltimore.  Yardball said it best.     

 

[interloper]

Any good comps for Jones? Obviously hard to say at this point, but curious if anyone would take a stab. 

[Ruzious]

10 minutes ago, interloper said:

Any good comps for Jones? Obviously hard to say at this point, but curious if anyone would take a stab. 

Somewhere between Pat Valaika and Rogers Hornsby.  

[interloper]

3 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

Somewhere between Pat Valaika and Rogers Hornsby.  

Good chance you nailed it!

[jabba72]

38 minutes ago, interloper said:

Any good comps for Jones? Obviously hard to say at this point, but curious if anyone would take a stab. 

Jerry Hairston if he couldnt field, and was bulkier, perhaps. 

[interloper]

1 minute ago, jabba72 said:

Jerry Hairston if he couldnt field, and was bulkier, perhaps. 

Coco Crisp without the elite base stealing?

[jabba72]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

Coco Crisp without the elite base stealing?

I was trying to stay within the same position, but you could be onto something. 

[Ohfan67]

4 hours ago, jabba72 said:

Jerry Hairston if he couldnt field, and was bulkier, perhaps. 

Hairston’s minor league OPS was significantly higher than Jones’. Unfortunately Jones’ minor league OPS is very similar to Valaika’s. 

[Il BuonO]

6 hours ago, Ruzious said:

Somewhere between Pat Valaika and Rogers Hornsby.  

I’m guessing, but probably closer to Valaika than Hornsby.

Not going out on a limb with that, am I?