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By sportsfan8703 · Posted
We’re trotting out A lineup out there and Mounty is hitting 7th and Cowser is on the bench. Both have really ugly numbers since May 1 basically. We’re discussing game 3 SP, why not discuss do we want Mountcastle starting in the playoffs if it’s not against a LHP? I’d say no. As analytic and swing decision our FO is, I bet they want to get rid of Mounty. He was a necessary dude to get us here, but not anymore. Not with Mayo behind him. Mounty might benefit numbers wise, not approach, to get away from the Wall. Would a contender want him? If so, which one? I don’t see why a rebuilding team would want him. Could we buy and sell at the deadline? -
Is there a price you wouldn’t pay for Skubal if he were available? I’m assuming you’d have no qualms about a Mayo, Basallo, McDermott, DeLeon package? -
By CaptainRedbeard · Posted
I think almost every Orioles fan is interested in Crochet but most do not think he is worth Holliday, Mayo or Basallo. 2.5 years of control for a guy who has been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year is very valuable, but the huge injury question mark and the workload concern about whether he can even start in the playoffs this year (let alone down the stretch in the regular season) erodes that value immensely. Fedde is interesting and has pitched very well to date this season but it’s hard to have much confidence that his performance won’t back up to more in line with his entire career of work prior to this season. Adding the sweeper has clearly taken him to another level, but overall his stuff is still below average and he relies on controlling contact quality, which is often not very stable and it’s still a small sample of him pitching at this level in the MLB. There initially were not many other clearly available SP at the deadline, except for Flaherty, who the Orioles probably won’t want to go round 2 with since it didn’t work out last year. So you’re almost correct that there’s limited options beyond the White Sox SPs. However, it’s now looking like the Rangers, Blue Jays and Rays will be sellers with a number of rental or 1.5 year SPs, which will considerably buffer the supply at the deadline. Even if the Blue Jays and Rays don’t want to trade in-division (and the Rays do often trade in-division, and did with the Orioles in 2022), it’s now looking like there will be a lot more SP available from sellers to meet the demand at the deadline. Crochet is a unique situation since he’s probably the only real ace available at the deadline, but the Orioles would need to build their package around Kjerstad. And they could easily say they’d rather pay a cheaper price from the middle of their farm system to get a rental or 1.5 year guy (like Scherzer, Eovaldi, Heaney, Kikuchi, Bassit, Gausman, Eflin or Littell) to start game 3/4 this year to be able to hang onto Kjerstad. A big factor that’s also a complete unknown to fans is how much the new ownership group is willing to spend. If it’s going to be more of the same, then Crochet’s 2.5 cheap years are much more appealing. But if they are planning to spend this offseason to bring in one or more free agent SPs, then going for a cheaper rental at the deadline and holding onto some prospects could be a better route. -
I guess you have to give him the start if you think he has a future here. He certainly gives a different look than most starters. I am concerned about how he looks in the first couple of innings. He seems to throw an extraordinary number of pitches early in the game. His first batter yesterday was beyond horrific. The 3-0 pitch sailed to the backstop. 4 pitches all fastballs and not one close. If I was the opposition I wouldn't swing until he proves he can throw a strike. I don't know whether Cade is just keyed up and has to settle down. I don't know whether they have to adjust his pre-game warmup process. But, something has to be done. He is not going to overwhelm batters he better learn to pitch. I am tired of hearing Jim Palmer talking about adjusting to the mound, an umpire and hitters in the box. If your down 3-0 having only thrown 1 strike, it's time for some adjustments. -
By Chicago White Sox · Posted
If Crochet had a longer track record and zero concerns regarding an innings limit this year, we’d be looking for a Juan Soto type package. That being said, you aren’t getting a guy with elite stuff who currently leads all pitchers in fWAR and comes with two more years of low cost control on the cheap either. And your proposal is very much lacking after Basallo if you think it’s going to get you two star players. To me, a solid middle ground for Crochet only would be one of Basallo or Mayo, Beavers, and then one of your better arms like McDermott. Yes, there would be some risk, but the upside for you guys would be incredible. -
By Bemorewins · Posted
No it doesn’t have to be Crochet. And yes I would prefer Skubal. But I think it would be wise for us to try to acquire a top tier pitcher. IMO it protects against the possible loss of Burnes in the offseason and it makes us as strong as possible to pursue a World Series this season. -
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