Brandon Hyde deserves credit

[accinfo]

This  year we have seen a lot of bad baseball but in my opinion because of the lack of talent not lack of a good manager.  I am not saying Brandon Hyde is a good manager yet because I need to see what he can do when he has enough good players.  However, these guys don't quit on each other and I think that is a reflection on their manager.  The pitchers he has had at his disposable to start games is enough to sink a team to 100 losses.  The innings leader is Matt Harvey.  That isn't his fault.  I want to see what his managing record is when he has a major league 3B, SS, 2B, and C and a starting rotation of at three major league number 5 starters.   I hope they announce his extension tomorrow after a fun win.

[gtman55]

I agree.

I've never understood all the Hyde "hate" I see at times. I really like the guy and it's clear his players like him. And with the way the year has gone, his players don't give up. 

I'd like to see him extended and manage this team for years to come once some of the better players start trickling in.

[Philip]

44 minutes ago, accinfo said:

This is year we have seen a lot of bad baseball but in my opinion because of the lack of talent not lack of a good manager.  I am not saying Brandon Hyde is a good manager yet because I need to see what he can do when he has enough good players.  However, these guys don't quit on each other and I think that is a reflection on their manager.  The pitchers he has had at his disposable to start games is enough to sink a team to 100 losses.  The innings leader is Matt Harvey.  That isn't his fault.  I want to see what his managing record is when he has a major league 3B, SS, 2B, and C and a starting rotation of at three major league number 5 starters.   I hope they announce his extension tomorrow after a fun win.

I am not the only one who strongly disagrees with you.

However, there are lots of people strongly agree with you, so there is that…

[Barnaby Graves]

2 hours ago, gtman55 said:

I agree.

I've never understood all the Hyde "hate" I see at times. I really like the guy and it's clear his players like him. And with the way the year has gone, his players don't give up. 

I'd like to see him extended and manage this team for years to come once some of the better players start trickling in.

I’m in.

[Daddy-O's]

It does not take a good manager to coach a team to its skill level.  A good manager is able to elevate his team above its skill level.  The question should not be about the ability of the players but the ability of the manager to get the most out of what he has been given.  I think Hyde has been given D level players and gotten D level results out of them.  

 

[Frobby]

55 minutes ago, Daddy-O's said:

It does not take a good manager to coach a team to its skill level.  A good manager is able to elevate his team above its skill level.  The question should not be about the ability of the players but the ability of the manager to get the most out of what he has been given.  I think Hyde has been given D level players and gotten D level results out of them.  

 

If this is D level results, what the heck does it take to earn an F?   

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

If this is D level results, what the heck does it take to earn an F?   

Ask Torey.

[LA2]

11 hours ago, accinfo said:

This is year we have seen a lot of bad baseball but in my opinion because of the lack of talent not lack of a good manager.  I am not saying Brandon Hyde is a good manager yet because I need to see what he can do when he has enough good players.  However, these guys don't quit on each other and I think that is a reflection on their manager.  The pitchers he has had at his disposable to start games is enough to sink a team to 100 losses.  The innings leader is Matt Harvey.  That isn't his fault.  I want to see what his managing record is when he has a major league 3B, SS, 2B, and C and a starting rotation of at three major league number 5 starters.   I hope they announce his extension tomorrow after a fun win.

During the recent Yankee series in the Bronx, the inveterate radio announcer John Sterling frequently remarked that the Orioles did not look like a tanking team that had mailed it in, but were playing and managed as if they were in a dogfight for a playoff spot. Of course, he was flabbergasted by the Yankees' inability to put the O's away, but I heard real admiration in his voice.

[Frobby]

I really have had no problem with the effort that the Orioles players have put out during Hyde’s tenure, or the apparent atmosphere in the clubhouse.   I think Hyde has done a good job of getting his players to play hard and avoiding dissension within the team.   

I think lineup selection, bullpen usage, and getting the team to play fundamentally sound, mentally alert baseball are separate issues.   I don’t think Hyde has a perfect record in any of those respects.  But there are some mitigating factors, too.   First of all, he hasn’t had much to work with.   Second of all, part of his job is to give lots of players opportunities, including in tough spots, rather than just going to his best lineup and bullpen options every day.   That’s part of finding out what players can do and giving them experience that will help them in the future.    And finally, because of the constant roster churn, it’s harder for the players to get on the same page and into rhythm with each other all the time, and that leads to miscues and fundamental lapses that wouldn’t occur if the same 8 position players were in the lineup almost every day.    

I like Hyde and hope he gets the opportunity to manage a talented team at some point, to see what he can do in that environment.   Whether he’ll be around here long enough for that to happen is anyone’s guess.   

 

[Moose Milligan]

I will agree, his teams have put forth effort during his time here.  They have gotten their brains beaten in and come back the next night like nothing ever happened.

Hyde is fine.  I hope he gets a chance to manage a talented team, too.

[Redskins Rick]

I believe there are too many fans on social media sites, FB and MASN, for example, that have nothing but pure hate for Hyde and blame him for everything, regardless of the issue.

He is like their scapegoat, and if he was replaced the entire team would miraculously become better.

 

 

[luismatos4prez]

I agree. The team tries hard, that's all I ask for right now. The 8th inning last night was the best moment of the year after the No-Hitter.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I will agree, his teams have put forth effort during his time here.  They have gotten their brains beaten in and come back the next night like nothing ever happened.

Hyde is fine.  I hope he gets a chance to manage a talented team, too.

Just look at last night's game down 5-0 headed into the bottom of the eighth inning. They easily could have slept walk through the last inning and a half. Instead we get perhaps the best comeback of the season. 

[yark14]

Next year is the litmus test.  I like Hyde and hope next year we surprise a lot of people.

If anybody's got to go, its Holt.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, yark14 said:

Next year is the litmus test.  I like Hyde and hope next year we surprise a lot of people.

If anybody's got to go, its Holt.

Don't let Wildcard see this this reply.