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Monday July 4 afternoon: Orioles' first July 4 home game in 14 years

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justD
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That's what I call taking one for the team!!!! Woooo!!!

Tom13206
Tom13206

We’ll take it   Aint the beer cold

SteveA
SteveA

Apparently there was a lineup change in the last hour before the game.   The line up I posted to start the thread had Mancini at DH and Mountcastle at 1B.   But it is now reversed.  Nothing else chang

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    • LookitsPuck
      Hyde: No Idea if Suarez Will Be Back

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      Don't Cano and Akin have options? Felix does as well. And folks get hurt. 
    • Aristotelian
      Hyde: No Idea if Suarez Will Be Back

      By Aristotelian · Posted

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      By LookitsPuck · Posted

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    • Aristotelian
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      By Aristotelian · Posted

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    • Sports Guy
      Hyde: No Idea if Suarez Will Be Back

      By Sports Guy · Posted

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    • Can_of_corn
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