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11 minutes ago, spleen1015 said:

I think folks are just sick of the losing and now that we're winning a little bit they're getting impatient and want more.

I'm gonna trust Elias because he's good a great job up to this point.

As much as I despise the fact that Phillips is poisoning this roster, I absolutely trust Elias with the overall rebuild and transition into contention. The frustration you're witnessing stems from the fact that folks like me are impatient about seeing the prospects get their due. That was the promise of this season, and it's been delayed much longer than feels necessary.

We're in the middle of a playoff push and we're deciding to play objectively worse players in Odor and Phillips. 

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Finally someone who can replace Owings production.

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There are improvements he can make mechanically. It looks like they already made some adjustments with him prior to yesterday’s game his hands were higher, and he was more balanced. Solid line drive h

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21 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more.  Elias made moves that could help us significantly in the future and should hurt us very little in the present.   I fully expect him to spend the winter making moves designed to help the 2023 team be a serious contender.   And I haven’t given up hope on the 2022 team eking out a playoff spot.   

In my opinion, the best way to prepare to win in 2023 is to call up some of your better prospects now, to start them on the learning curve.   Vavra is getting playing time; that's a good start.  I'd like to see Stowers and at least one of Westburg/Henderson called up as well.  

I suspect that service time manipulation is the reason that we aren't seeing moves like this.  That may not be Elias' call.    

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Can't believe we're gonna watch this double ear-flap ass wearing clownshow be an automatic out in the lineup instead of [insert anyone]. And the broadcasters will just prattle on unendingly about his dugout presence or his goofball sense of humor. Kill me.  

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12 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Wow, I guess that more or less settles the matter of whether or not the FO believes Diaz can be part of the future here.

I would think his .677 OPS at Norfolk had already settled that matter. 
 

It still makes no sense as to why Stowers isn’t in Baltimore. 

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4 minutes ago, waroriole said:

I would think his .677 OPS at Norfolk had already settled that matter. 
 

It still makes no sense as to why Stowers isn’t in Baltimore. 

The probable answer, and it's not a good one, is just that they did not trade Santander and therefore, there's not technically an "everyday" spot for Stowers in the outfield. Now - could they rotate him between all 3 spots plus DH and get him roughly enough ABs while keeping everyone fresh? Absolutely. But they have opted instead to have 3 traditional starts in the outfield, a R/L combo of 4th outfielders in McKenna and Phillips, and a DH spot that is mostly occupied, apparently, by Adley and Vavra, or whoever they choose to rest.

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5 minutes ago, interloper said:

Can't believe we're gonna watch this double ear-flap ass wearing clownshow be an automatic out in the lineup instead of [insert anyone]. And the broadcasters will just prattle on unendingly about his dugout presence or his goofball sense of humor. Kill me.  

And just because you said that... he's going to hit .285 and OPS .800

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Would be smart to start some service time clocks now I would think. We basically only started one clock so far this year, right? And that one clock was timed for an extra year if Adley doesn't have something to say about that down the stretch.  So, what? We gonna start 5 or more next year? Ouch. That's a lot of club controlled players reaching arb and free agency at the same time. 

Also that, "4 of our top 5 are poised to get promoted" comment seems a bit bs at this point. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

none of know, what if any handcuffs are placed on Elias at this point in time.

 

But it's hard to imagine that ownership would force Elias to add Phillips' salary if Elias didn't want it. Also seems unlikely that ownership is meddling with Stowers' promotion. That would be replacing Mancini's salary with a player making the minimum instead of Phillips' 1.4 million. Meddling seems unlikely in this case IMO. 

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18 minutes ago, oh-wee-ohs said:

Would be smart to start some service time clocks now I would think. We basically only started one clock so far this year, right? And that one clock was timed for an extra year if Adley doesn't have something to say about that down the stretch.  So, what? We gonna start 5 or more next year? Ouch. That's a lot of club controlled players reaching arb and free agency at the same time. 

Also that, "4 of our top 5 are poised to get promoted" comment seems a bit bs at this point. 

 

 Bradish has technically been promoted.

Hall will spend "much" of the season in the majors.

It's just a darn shame that Grayson got hurt only weeks after being ready to be promoted.  If he had made it a month he would have been promoted first.

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8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 Bradish has technically been promoted.

Hall will spend "much" of the season in the majors.

It's just a darn shame that Grayson got hurt only weeks after being ready to be promoted.  If he had made it a month he would have been promoted first.

Grayson was a huge bummer. I almost put an aside in about him but figured it was obvious.

Next year it's Grayson, Gunnar, Stowers, Westburg, Cowser. Who else am I missing? Hall? He's on the 40 so I'm guessing their plan is to bring him up in September for a cup of coffee. 

And if the plan is to trade most of these guys with 1-2 years of control remaining with that "elite pipeline" then the slow playing makes even less sense. I just don't get it.

Hopefully Elias does something in the next couple weeks to make us all eat crow about this but not really holding my breath.

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