Eovaldi signed with Rangers per Moose

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, jamalshw said:

To be fair, Eovaldi wasn't going to "save this offseason" either. Really, the offseason is only "saved" by the Orioles going out and winning. 

Right.  Outside of signing Rodon or Verlander, what was going to really move the needle?

[Moose Milligan]

Eovaldi instead of Gibson >>>>>>>> Just Gibson

[DrinkinWithFermi]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

What were you hoping/expecting?

My best case scenario was something like sign Bassitt/Taillon and trade for Pablo Lopez.

 

 

 

My expectations were similar to that. I would have been very satisfied with, say, Quintana, Walker, and JDM or Bassitt, Lopez, and Justin Turner or Flexen, Syndergaard, and Conforto. In other words, nothing particularly extravagant or unreasonable, but it turns out that that was actually entirely unreasonable because we are apparently still in the "1 year deals for reclamation projects" phase despite our record last year.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Eovaldi instead of Gibson >>>>>>>> Just Gibson

if they were going to not try, then I would rather they didnt pretend and skip signing Gibson and Fraizer.

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Eovaldi instead of Gibson >>>>>>>> Just Gibson

That’s a lot of arrows!   I wouldn’t have given it more than 2, given Eovaldi’s health track record.   That said, Gibson alone is clearly not enough of an upgrade to our starting pitching.   

[RZNJ]

5 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Eovaldi instead of Gibson >>>>>>>> Just Gibson

Eovaldi has thrown over 125 innings once since 2016.  Gibson has done it six times.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Eovaldi has thrown over 125 innings once since 2016.  Gibson has done it six times.

With a whopping 95 ERA+ 

[NCRaven]

33 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

for another implies, he has already made one.

I meant in addition to Rodriguez and Hall who I expect to be quality starters that are new to our rotation this season.  But, I get your point.

[Redskins Rick]

4 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

With a whopping 95 ERA+ 

If Gibson had anything left in the tank, a division rival would not be trading.

[NCRaven]

39 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

They aren’t trading for a starter that likely greatly moves the needle. Best case is Pablo Lopez who is good but not great. He has upside though.

But Pablo Lopez doesn’t save this offseason.

I can’t think of anything that they would realistically do that can save the offseason. They have completely botched this and have given the team no momentum that they built up.

Actually, I think that a rotation that includes Lopez, Rodriguez, Hall, Gibson and Bradish could be substantially better than we ended the '23 season with and be a significant improvement.  Pushing lower end starters like Wells, Kremer, and Voth to the bullpen would make a strength even stronger.  Depending on who is included in any such trade, I'd be pretty pleased with that roster going into next season.

[RZNJ]

17 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

With a whopping 95 ERA+ 

Ok. Eovaldi’s carrer ERA + is 101.  BUT Gibson is more likely to keep you from dipping into the Zimmerman types.

[sportsfan8703]

25 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

if they were going to not try, then I would rather they didnt pretend and skip signing Gibson and Fraizer.

We know why the Gibson signing happened… to mitigate risk. Gibson was the dude that didn’t want to wait around and be the last one standing. So he took the money. We wanted a Lyles replacement, and to have a bird in hand before the 2nd tier pitching options started flying. 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Ok. Eovaldi’s carrer ERA + is 101.  BUT Gibson is more likely to keep you from dipping into the Zimmerman types.

It's 107 during that same 2016-2022 period.

And I didn't want Eovaldi anyway, but he is clearly the superior pitcher when healthy. Obviously that is a big caveat in his case.

[tntoriole]

58 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

At least they aren't punting after an 83 win season 

Yeah just spending big time risk free agent dollars after a 94 loss season.. 

 

Not that big free agent signings ever go south lol

Edited December 28, 2022 by tntoriole

[Frobby]

Just now, DrinkinWithFermi said:

It's 107 during that same 2016-2022 period.

And I didn't want Eovaldi anyway, but he is clearly the superior pitcher when healthy. Obviously that is a big caveat in his case.

Yeah, it’s just the “when healthy” part.  Nobody doubts he’s a better pitcher than Gibson when he’s actually available.