Jorge Mateo 2023

[Pickles]

19 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

He put up 3.4 WAR last year with a .646 OPS. How many wins is 100 points of OPS worth? 

That would of course be dependent upon postion.

I'm just guesstimating and simplifying here but 100 points of OPS might mean 1-2 WAR, whereas 100 points at SS might be 2-3 WAR.

[Just Regular]

Siera Santos on Intentional Talk just did a fantastic job interviewing Mateo, with just a small assist from Brandon Quinones.    It was my first encounter with a MLB Network interview where for the broadcast quality she posed many of the questions in both Spanish and English, and it really seemed to help him open up.

I did not know we had signed his brother last winter, or that the O's had helped him do a charity event in his hometown, or that Miguel Andujar is an older brother figure from his time in the Minors, or that his nickname is Rambo after his berserker style in Call of Duty, or that singing is his secret talent.

 

[spleen1015]

3 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

Siera Santos on Intentional Talk just did a fantastic job interviewing Mateo, with just a small assist from Brandon Quinones.    It was my first encounter with a MLB Network interview where for the broadcast quality she posed many of the questions in both Spanish and English, and it really seemed to help him open up.

I did not know we had signed his brother last winter, or that the O's had helped him do a charity event in his hometown, or that Miguel Andujar is an older brother figure from his time in the Minors, or that his nickname is Rambo after his berserker style in Call of Duty, or that singing is his secret talent.

 

I hope they post this on their youtube channel.

[banks703]

Well, I guess the baseball Gods refuse to allow us to have nice things. 
 

I hate to speculate but that looked like a groin for Jorge. 

[Just Regular]

Right hip discomfort according to Brown on the broadcast.

[ShoelesJoe]

Just reported he was taken out for hip discomfort. Getting a sick Albert Belle vibe out of this. 

[banks703]

28 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Just reported he was taken out for hip discomfort. Getting a sick Albert Belle vibe out of this. 

If I remember correctly Belle had a degenerative hip. 

[Sports Guy]

Hmmmm..so an injury that has a chance to be nagging and the type of injury that could effect his running.

Im old enough to remember someone telling me these things weren’t realistic.

Hope he’s ok. I didn’t see it.

[jdwilde1]

4 hours ago, Pickles said:

That would of course be dependent upon postion.

I'm just guesstimating and simplifying here but 100 points of OPS might mean 1-2 WAR, whereas 100 points at SS might be 2-3 WAR.

That’s not how it works, the position runs are unconnected to the batting runs.  WAR, whether its Baseball Reference or Fangraphs, is based on total of runs assigned to several discreet categories.  For example, Baseball Reference has six components for position players: Batting Runs, Baserunning Runs, Runs added or lost due to Grounding into Double Plays in DP situations, Fielding Runs, Positional Adjustment Runs, Replacement level Runs (based on playing time).  These categories are abbreviated as Rbat, Rbaser, Rdp, Rfield, Rpos, and RAA.  See “Player Value—Batting” at the following link:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mateojo01.shtml
 

How those assigned runs are determined is beyond me, but my understanding is that the runs are based on proprietary information.
 

Getting back to Mateo, he was -13 Rbat last year.  If his OPS is around .750 for a full season, his Rbat would probably be around +10 (this is just a guess since its not some direct formula tied to OPS).  That’s a 2.3 swing, so my rough guess would be about 2 WAR.

[Pickles]

5 minutes ago, jdwilde1 said:

That’s not how it works, the position runs are unconnected to the batting runs.  WAR, whether its Baseball Reference or Fangraphs, is based on total of runs assigned to several discreet categories.  For example, Baseball Reference has six components for position players: Batting Runs, Baserunning Runs, Runs added or lost due to Grounding into Double Plays in DP situations, Fielding Runs, Positional Adjustment Runs, Replacement level Runs (based on playing time).  These categories are abbreviated as Rbat, Rbaser, Rdp, Rfield, Rpos, and RAA.  See “Player Value—Batting” at the following link:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mateojo01.shtml
 

How those assigned runs are determined is beyond me, but my understanding is that the runs are based on proprietary information.
 

Getting back to Mateo, he was -13 Rbat last year.  If his OPS is around .750 for a full season, his Rbat would probably be around +10 (this is just a guess since its not some direct formula tied to OPS).  That’s a 2.3 swing, so my rough guess would be about 2 WAR.

My understanding is the Batting value is scaled to the position they play.  I'm fully open to the possibility I'm wrong.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Figures this thread gets posted today and Mateo gets dinged up tonight. Hopefully it's nothing serious and doesn't sideline him too long.

[bpilktree]

Good thing we have a guy hitting almost .400 down in AAA who plays short.  

[Bahama O's Fan]

32 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

Good thing we have a guy hitting almost .400 down in AAA who plays short.  

If you bring him up, play him. Don't sit him on the bench

[Tony-OH]

Let's hope this isn't serious. Mateo has been great so far, but if he does go down for a bit, I think we're going to see Ortiz if they want an everyday replacement and keep the Urias/Henderson/Frazier rotation between 3B/2B.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

6 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

If you bring him up, play him. Don't sit him on the bench

Agreed keep the existing rotation of Urias/Henderson/Frazier with Ortiz taking the place of Mateo if Mateo needs to go on the IL.