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The Orioles could have been an 85 win team last season had they actually had a ML average rotation because of their potent offense. It sounds like we could actually have that this season...

We shall see...Remember, many saw Uehera as a reliever and Looper will be worse in the AL than the NL.

I am looking for innings from the rotation...Give me 850ish innings and a collective ERA around 4.80 and I think we will be ok...That should be enough for our pen to be very good.

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I am not a fan of two guaranteed years.

since it is for cheap, it's not awful, but I wouldn't have gone past a year and an option.

Then we probably wouldn't have reached an agreement. Just because we had more leverage than Looper doesn't mean we had TOTAL leverage. This seems to be a reasonable price to pay, in dollars and years, in exchange for the value he brings.
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2/10? Damn, that kind of sucks. Its not a ton of money but hate the second year.

You had to expect that if the O's offered one and Looper countered 3 that they'd meet in the middle at 2 years.

They were willing to guarantee Wigginton a second year which is why he signed and I'd bet they are doing the same with Looper.

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Then we probably wouldn't have reached an agreement. Just because we had more leverage than Looper doesn't mean we had TOTAL leverage. This seems to be a reasonable price to pay, in dollars and years, in exchange for the value he brings.

But then have you have to ask yourself this, would you rather have him for two guaranteed years or not at all?

For me, that's a tough question. Personally, I like Looper, but I feel that there are just too many unknown factors that make a two-year deal for him a potential mistake.

He's 34, he's only pitched two seasons as a SP. Now, he did pitch relatively well in those two seasons, but that was in the NL Central. How will he adjust to pitching in the AL? He could very well post similar stats to last season, but it is very likely he sees his ERA jump up into the 4.75 range. It is also likely it could go up even higher, he could really struggle to adjust to the AL, or he could start to decline, after all, he is 34 years old.

I don't think two guaranteed years is awful, but I'm not sure it was neccessary. Who else would have given him two years? Even Jon Garland only got one and an option.

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Yachtsman Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Good move on Andy's part if it happens. It's the real final piece of the puzzle and solidifies the pitching staff to a point of not being a total embarassment that can hold its own on some nights. I am also not sold on Uehera being a lock for the rotation, by the way. We'll see how he does in the Spring.

All in all, if this happens, I rate the off-season as an A.

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