Cease vs everyone else

[Billy F-Face3]

Just now, Billy F-Face3 said:

This is what I've been trying to express.

Also in response to the other poster's comments about the 110M revenue sharing, if you divide that by 30 teams it only comes out to $3.6 Million the Orioles get out of that. If the nation wide TV contract is divided by 30 teams, that only adds $2Million. So all the Orioles get out of that is $3.8Million, if it's divided up by 30 teams and those are the real numbers.

Correction: They get $5.6 Million.

[Going Underground]

5 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

This is what I've been trying to express.

Also in response to the other poster's comments about the 110M revenue sharing, if you divide that by 30 teams it only comes out to $3.6 Million the Orioles get out of that. If the nation wide TV contract is divided by 30 teams, that only adds $2Million. So all the Orioles get out of that is $3.8Million, if it's divided up by 30 teams and those are the real numbers.

TV revenue not including local tv revenue. 

starting in 2022 every MLB team will receive a guaranteed $60.1 million via national TV deals (averaging out the money from the life of those deals)

[Roll Tide]

19 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Correction: They get $5.6 Million.

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starting in 2022 every MLB team will receive a guaranteed $60.1 million via national TV deals (averaging out the money from the life of those deals). Likely every local tv deal averages >$40m per year. So every single team is getting $100m+ guaranteed before selling a ticket.

this isn’t including the revenue sharing calculation 

https://dodgerblue.com/mlb-teams-receive-at-least-100-million-annually-from-tv-rights-contracts/2022/02/12/

[Roll Tide]

More money 1.5 Billion 

 

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MLB Team Sponsorship Revenue Grew To $1.5 Billion In 2023, Report Shows

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2023/10/19/mlb-team-sponsorship-revenue-grew-by-15-billion-in-2022-report-shows/?sh=742c9a9d7d8e

[Roll Tide]

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Under the new collective bargaining agreement (CBA) negotiated in 2022, each MLB team pools 48 per cent of local revenues with the total amount split equally between all 30 teams. This results in each team taking in 3.3 per cent of the total—an estimated $110 million USD, if not more. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, totalling around $90 million USD per team. The goal of revenue sharing is to allow small market teams to compete with big market teams like the New York Yankees and the Los Angeles Dodgers that bring in more money from ticket sales and merchandise. However, nutting has inspired many teams to exploit loopholes in this system, pushing revenue sharing money into other areas without improving their on-field product by increasing payroll. 

https://www.thetribune.ca/sports/mlb/#:~:text=Under the new collective bargaining,million USD%2C if not more
 

 

[OriolesMagic83]

5 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

More money 1.5 Billion 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2023/10/19/mlb-team-sponsorship-revenue-grew-by-15-billion-in-2022-report-shows/?sh=742c9a9d7d8e

O's are 4th among last year's playoff teams in sponsorship deals.  Poor JA is going broke financing this team out of his pockets.  What a hero.

[Billy F-Face3]

So the number that is being divided by 30 teams is more like $3.3 billion combined between the tv and the RS then.

I stand corrected.

[Roll Tide]

45 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

So the number that is being divided by 30 teams is more like $3.3 billion combined between the tv and the RS then.

I stand corrected.

So you believe the National tv money and revenue sharing is the same pile? 

[SemperFi]

9 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Their can support a payroll in the $160-$180 million range. There overall revenue has to to somewhere in the $280-$300 million range.

I think a little north of that:

Revenue sharing $110m, National TV $60, Disney $30 (one time), MASN ~$40, Game $80, Sponsorships $110, playoffs ?.  I have always noted that corporate sponsorship was a key part of revenue that was not previously captured.  So that's over $400m in revenue, of course we have little idea of what true expenses are.  I'll also add that the Orioles sponsorship level is high versus others by their gambling partners specifically SuperBook.

 

Edited January 29 by SemperFi

[24fps]

46 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

O's are 4th among last year's playoff teams in sponsorship deals.  Poor JA is going broke financing this team out of his pockets.  What a hero.

Given the overall health of major league baseball in general and the identifiable revenue streams for the Orioles specifically, the notion that JA would have to raise ticket prices (his claim in a NY Times story) in order to carry a bigger payroll would be laughable if it weren't so insulting.

Organizational costs?  Plenty of teams are aggressively shoveling  money into scouting and development yet somehow they can get by carrying a payroll well north of $100 million.  Perhaps JA should pirate some business execs from other teams to show him how it's done seeing that he's having so much trouble with his current crew.

[SemperFi]

 

I would think this package runs $20m or so-note that this is another new revenue stream that opened last year-only 13 of MLB teams can take advantage.

The MLB is leading the charge from a partnership perspective as the sports betting industry continues to evolve in the US, as revealed in the MLB 2022 Marketing Partnerships Report released last week.

According to the report, 13 MLB teams hail from states where retail and online betting have been legalized. In states where online gambling approval is still pending, teams have inked in-venue signage assets to stake their claim as future official partners to sports betting brands.

Take the Chicago White Sox, for example. Illinois’ first retail sportsbook debuted in March 2020, and the team unveiled teaser signage with Caesars Sportsbook in September 2021. Following the state’s legalization of online sportsbooks in March 2022, the White Sox named Caesars Sportsbook its official sports betting partner.

The deal includes the following assets:

Entertainment content, such as the “KLINKO Challenge”

1st & 3rd base digital ads

Outfield wall signage

Backstop rotating banner ads

Digital ads in the outfield’s mid-upper level

Ribbon board digital ads

Inner bowl signage

Digital ads on the Videoboard

Stadium concourse TV commercial

Exterior ground rotating billboard

During the 2022 season, the Houston Astros, Cleveland Guardians, and St. Louis Cardinals were just a few teams that followed the White Sox’s lead, selling outfield wall signage in anticipation of online betting’s imminent legalization in their home states.

[Yardball85]

2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

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this isn’t including the revenue sharing calculation 

https://dodgerblue.com/mlb-teams-receive-at-least-100-million-annually-from-tv-rights-contracts/2022/02/12/

But John Angelos needs this money!  It's not fair for those mean fans and journalists to expect him to spend it to improve the team! He wants it! 

[Roll Tide]

27 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

But John Angelos needs this money!  It's not fair for those mean fans and journalists to expect him to spend it to improve the team! He wants it! 

The Angelos family is hoarding money in an attempt to retain ownership after Peter’s passing. The tax bill will be huge. That’s my theory anyway.

[Rustbelt]

11 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

The Angelos family is hoarding money in an attempt to retain ownership after Peter’s passing. The tax bill will be huge. That’s my theory anyway.

How does this work?  Peter Angelos was a majority owner with many other minority owners, right?  Or was this a corporation?  

[Roll Tide]

19 minutes ago, Rustbelt said:

How does this work?  Peter Angelos was a majority owner with many other minority owners, right?  Or was this a corporation?  

Not 100% sure but they will pay. But, the reason that the team hasn’t been sold until the passing is they would immediately owe $500 million based on capitol gains. After his passing it would be less but still a lot of money

 

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Edited January 29 by Roll Tide