Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

[Just Regular]

This gets past my fluency, and glad to hear from more knowledgeable folks on how top pitchers regulate effort on a rolling 12-month basis but from October 7th until January it feels possible Bradish would have been in a rest/de-load mode where something from Sep/Oct may have flown under the radar.

Pitchers trying to get hot when the new year's camps begin seems like typically when there are clusters of news like this.

[Sports Guy]

Gotta wonder if this opens the door for McDermott at all?  If he comes to camp and is impressive, he could find himself on the OD roster.

[interloper]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

It’s not like Elias is going to give up more because another team thinks he’s desperate.  Just absurd to think that.

I do agree that Lorenzen could be the play. Not what I would do but he can start and if by some miracle these 2 get back, you can put him in the pen.

He never made sense as the primary new starter but in a situation like this, he makes more sense.  
 

Yeah almost any qualified ML SP will do at this point, just as a way to prop up the bullpen more than anything. Let's say no moves are made and the O's put Wells anad Irvin in the rotation to start the year. That would make your OD bullpen look like this:

Kimbrel
Cano
Coulombe
Perez
Tate
Webb
Baumann
Baker/Akin/Zimmermann/Vespi/Heasley

Woof. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

I would rather get a guy like Lorenzen / Ryu on a one year deal.  Problem with Montgomery signing isn't just a question for our payroll this year its a question for the next several years when we need to be accounting for additional payroll to extend our young core stars.

We can absolutely afford both, even when Angelos was owner. Whether they will is a different question.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

5 minutes ago, Philip said:

Seriously, how much WOULD Montgomery cost? Our payroll is now about 90M, which is not not nothing but still bottom tier. And new ownership, new and exciting possibilities, increased attendance, including lots of disgruntled folks from the dumpster fire in the Nats organization, and when has there been a Better time for a solid FA?

Its not like 3/55 for Ubaldo.

And it would be kind of nice to snipe a starter from Texas, who also needs SPs.

Ain't happening, bro.

You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

If we are lucky, they will sign Ryu, Lorenzen, or Clevinger. 

[KojiSplit]

3 minutes ago, Philip said:

Seriously, how much WOULD Montgomery cost? Our payroll is now about 90M, which is not not nothing but still bottom tier. And new ownership, new and exciting possibilities, increased attendance, including lots of disgruntled folks from the dumpster fire in the Nats organization, and when has there been a Better time for a solid FA?

Its not like 3/55 for Ubaldo.

And it would be kind of nice to snipe a starter from Texas, who also needs SPs.

Rangers are not signing Montgomery.

If I had to guess, Boras is probably asking for 6 year 150 after originally seeking 180. 

but general manager Chris Young threw plenty of cold water on that possibility Wednesday, telling the team’s beat that any notable acquisitions are unlikely at this point

[interloper]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think that if he thought a deal needed to be closed he would have pushed for it and it would be done by now.

 

Maybe. Or maybe agents are dragging their feet, or other GMs, etc. Who knows. 

Either he really isn't worried about it, or he's trying harder behind the scenes than it looks. Both seem roughly as likely to me right now. 

[Sports Guy]

Elias isn’t going to run out and make a dumb purchase like Snell or Montgomery unless either of them decide they want a 1 year deal and go back on the market next year..:which isn’t happening.

He will sign a guy for 1 year or make a trade for a cheaper, cost controlled guy. 

[Just Regular]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Gotta wonder if this opens the door for McDermott at all?  If he comes to camp and is impressive, he could find himself on the OD roster.

Cade Povich is the one who got the better roster number.

Same as Holliday v. Westburg/Urias, or Mayo v. Mountcastle/O'Hearn, or Povich/McDermott v. Irvin I'd hope for the same general 2024 strategy the Burnes move indicates.

[ThisIsBirdland]

4 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

It was a lot of fun hearing all of the national baseball talking heads call the Orioles a bonafide WS favorite after the Burnes trade, but losing Bradish for the year (and let's be real here, we absolutely are losing him for the year) takes us out of that conversation, IMO. 

I get the self-protective reasoning behind making this statement, repeatedly, but we absolutely do not know that. We really have no idea.

[Sports Guy]

So, the rotation takes a massive hit already and the bullpen, which is already the weak link of the team, likely takes on more work.

But yea, it was silly to think we needed to add 2 starters this offseason.  

[interloper]

1 minute ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

I get the self-protective reasoning behind making this statement, repeatedly, but we absolutely do not know that. We really have no idea.

Right now I'm just looking at: how do we get through April with 2 guys missing from the rotation. I'm trying not to prognosticate too much about Bradish. 

But the rotation as it stands now has Dean Kremer as its #3 starter for the month of April until Means ever makes it back. That's not going to cut it. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Elias isn’t going to run out and make a dumb purchase like Snell or Montgomery unless either of them decide they want a 1 year deal and go back on the market next year..:which isn’t happening.

He will sign a guy for 1 year or make a trade for a cheaper, cost controlled guy. 

I always agreed with you about acquiring another starter but I don’t understand why signing a pitcher is anathema but trading prospects for one is okay. It’s not your money

[Orioles0615]

Just now, interloper said:

Right now I'm just looking at: how do we get through April with 2 guys missing from the rotation. I'm trying not to prognosticate too much about Bradish. 

But the rotation as it stands now has Dean Kremer as its #3 starter for the month of April until Means ever makes it back. That's not going to cut it. 

April and May..

 

Even if they both miss April don't think they won't spend 4 weeks in rehab

[DrinkinWithFermi]

1 minute ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

I get the self-protective reasoning behind making this statement, repeatedly, but we absolutely do not know that. We really have no idea.

We have past data, and that past data almost uniformly says "it's TJS time."

But maybe we'll get lucky and Bradish will fall into that tiny percentage of pitchers that manage to avoid TJS with a PRP injection. That would be pretty neat.