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Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

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Bradish goes to rehab assignment news

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Doctor here.  The medical literature distinguishes between partial and complete tears, and whether the tear is proximal or distal.  We don't know the extent of the injury.  There is medical literature

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8 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Ugh…well, this is why I said we needed to add 1 and really 2 new starters.

Cease thread about to get to 400 pages!

Yep, we had insane luck with starters health last year and now we’re down 2 the first week of spring which were already known to the team.

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Just now, Tony-OH said:

I hope they are right because they know way more about the sprain then we do, but they tried this treatment stuff with Tate last year and he missed the whole year and who knows how he'll look this year. 

I hope he'll be fine but I'm going into this thinking they are delaying the inevitable just like they did with Bautista. The problem is the timing. If they wait until April or May to have the surgery, that's part of 2025 missed as well. 

Pretty sure they've evaluated the odds of success versus when they can expect a return. I imagine having a successful PRP therapy and a return at some point in 2024 has a tremendous amount of upside versus missing a couple months in 2025. Can't let Tate and Bautista serve as anecdotal reasons not to try to salvage 2024 if there's a decent chance he can make it back.

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From the same article...

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/orioles-kyle-bradish-ucl-sprain-elbow-injured-list.html#respond

-  Gunnar Henderson is behind schedule due to an oblique injury that’ll still need another two to three weeks of downtime

-  Samuel Basallo, meanwhile, has a stress fracture in his throwing elbow and will be limited to DH work in camp. He could begun throwing again by late April

-  John Means is about a month behind the rest of the O’s starters, as the team had him delay the start of his offseason program after an elbow flare-up prior to last year’s ALDS 

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Just now, ThisIsBirdland said:

Pretty sure they've evaluated the odds of success versus when they can expect a return. I imagine having a successful PRP therapy and a return at some point in 2024 has a tremendous amount of upside versus missing a couple months in 2025. Can't let Tate and Bautista serve as anecdotal reasons not to try to salvage 2024 if there's a decent chance he can make it back.

Like I said, they know more about the injury then me, but I have very little hope that PRP therapy actually works on major league pitchers long term. I hope they are right because losing Bradish for this season and part of next would be a gigantic blow.

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2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Where did you read this?

It's in the MLBTR article. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/orioles-kyle-bradish-ucl-sprain-elbow-injured-list.html#respond

My favorite sentence in the Elias quote. If anyone tries to read anything concrete into Elias's statements I think we will be able to point back to this one:

The GM struck an optimistic tone, noting that “everything is pointing in the right direction” for the talented right-hander.

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Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Means is out to start the season too.  Cease trade?  Montgomery or Snell signing?  Wells to SP?  Irvin SP?

Down 2 starters for at least the first month of the season. The bullpen cannot absorb both Wells and Irvin starting. We have to make some kind of move here. 

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      By Tony-OH · Posted

      I think anyone on this board deserves more respect than a comment like that. That's like saying, "Nobody cares what you have to say" on a board that is specifically designed to allow people to have their say.  Nobody here thinks Elias is reading this board and going, "Oh, Tony doesn't like that so I better stat playing Kjerstad!" lol
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      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Tony-OH · Posted

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    • interloper
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By interloper · Posted

      Just my take: I think they just called up the best player available. He's here to be a pinch-hitter or a Santander sub for a short period of time if Hyde wants to utilize him like that. If he doesn't, that's his prerogative, but Elias has given him the best hitter available on the farm to use as he sees fit. Once Hays is back, Kjerstad will go back down to get regular ABs, just like Stowers did, just like Cowser did. They won't let him linger on the bench too much longer. Kjerstad, Stowers, Norby, and Mayo are all incredible depth pieces, future ML starters, and excellent trade chips. Perhaps Elias didn't get any offers he liked in the offseason, so I think the plan is to hold them all as depth until July, and then swing something big. At least, that's what I hope happens.  Another potential is that perhaps Elias could have dealt one or two for pitching in the offseason, but is holding his cards for now just in case he needs to trade for another big name SP. Like if Bradish doesn't work out, or Burnes gets hurt. Something like that.  Like most of their decisions, Elias/Sig seem to like to kick the can down the road as long as possible. 
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      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

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      The organization definitely likes Kjerstad's bat, but there is a logjam at 1B/RF/DH that makes it tough for him to crack the lineup. I agree with Tony that there is enough wiggle room to give the other regulars a rest day during the week opening up room for Kjerstad to start 2 to 3 times. Rutschman complicates this as well because of his bat on the days he's not catching there's a good chance he's playing DH (like tonight).
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