Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

[oriolediehard]

Nothing like injuries to kill a season!!! We need to sign Montgomery or trade for a pitcher!!!!

[Aristotelian]

20 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Gotta wonder if this opens the door for McDermott at all?  If he comes to camp and is impressive, he could find himself on the OD roster.

You never know but I still kinda doubt it. This just puts Irvin and Wells back in the running for the rotation, i.e. the status quo pre-Burnes. I don't see Elias making a 40 man roster addition unless absolutely necessary and we're not there yet. 

 

[Frobby]

Here’s a full article on all the injuries.  https://www.masnsports.com/blog/bradish-to-begin-season-on-injured-list-means-also-expected-to-be-unavailable-on-opening-day

[DrinkinWithFermi]

9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Go get Cease.  Offer up Cowser or Kjerstad to lead the package and get it done.  You have the ability to do it and you have the need now..not to mention he is here next year, which helps with the loss of Burnes.

If you get lucky and Bradish comes back this year, even better. 

 

6 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Cease is definitely back in the fold.  Especially since it looks like both Cowser and Kjerstad will start the season in the minors.  Trading one of them for Cease is definitely prospect value well spent.  

Cease isn't a realistic option. 

Getz's previous demands for him were already silly and that was when he had much less leverage.

It's Ryu/Lorenzen/Clevinger or bust now.

[sportsfan8703]

2 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

You never know but I still kinda doubt it. This just puts Irvin and Wells back in the running for the rotation, i.e. the status quo pre-Burnes. I don't see Elias making a 40 man roster addition unless absolutely necessary and we're not there yet. 

 

RIght now the OD rotation looks like Burnes, Grayson, Kremer, Wells, Irvin.

[Sports Guy]

Bradish throws a lot of sliders..gotta wonder if that has anything to do with this?  Does it put more stress on the elbow?  
 

I have to admit, while I always worry about pitchers injuries, Grayson was the one that I was really worried about.  Hopefully that doesn’t come to fruition.

[ThisIsBirdland]

1 minute ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

The "data" I am referencing is the fact that the overwhelming majority of UCL sprains still result in TJS. There are only a handful of notable cases where PRP successfully negated the need for TJS. 

Obviously that isn't exactly scientific, but I have followed general baseball news for many years and have read "pitcher X tried PRP but will now going to undergo surgery because it didn't work" more times than I have read "pitcher X tried PRP and he's totally fine now," and it's not even remotely close.

Yeah this just doesn't justify your statement that (and I'm paraphrasing) "we absolutely know TJS is where this is going", in my opinion.

None of us know the details of the sprain, or the actual success rate of PRP technology in 2024. This study was circulated on twitter this morning and it shows reasonably high odds for success for low-grade sprains:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33796592/

I have no idea how credible it is. But given Elias' comments that they're pursuing this approach with some level of optimism, I'm just not ready to say TJS is absolutely where this is going.

[TopGunnar]

34 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

 

Oh well.  

An arm only has so many bullets in it before it needs TJ.  If he had it in January, it was gonna happen in camp.  They all break, it's just a matter of time.

 

What are you possibly talking about? All pitchers arms break? Tommy John surgery is relatively new. Plenty of pitchers arm end up not breaking.

[interloper]

1 minute ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Cease isn't a realistic option. 

Getz's previous demands for him were already silly and that was when he had much less leverage.

It's Ryu/Lorenzen/Clevinger or bust now.

Have to agree here. Our leverage sucks and Elias isn't going to suddenly sell the farm for Cease like Getz wants him to. 

[Aristotelian]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

RIght now the OD rotation looks like Burnes, Grayson, Kremer, Wells, Irvin.

True, McDermott could sneak into the bullpen. I'd still say Tate and Baker are probably ahead of him to start the year. 

Roch did say Means "might not" make opening day. He still could, maybe as an opener until he gets stretched out. Assuming all goes well and there's nothing else they're hiding from us.

[UMDTerrapins]

I figured Bradish would be more vulnerable to shoulder issues at some point. I’m not panicked at all, but between these two injuries we should find another starter. I like Wells more than most however. I wouldn’t mind seeing Mateo dealt for a reliever as well. 

[Spy Fox]

A big reason we won the division last year was our rotation health compared to the Yankees and Rays dealing with injury to almost everyone. Rodon, Severino, Cortes, McClanahan, Rasmussen, Springs...

[dystopia]

2 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

 

Cease isn't a realistic option. 

Getz's previous demands for him were already silly and that was when he had much less leverage.

It's Ryu/Lorenzen/Clevinger or bust now.

Took the words out of my mouth. If we haven’t gotten Cease yet, we sure as hell aren’t now. 
 

Add Montgomery to that list now. I’d probably offer him 6 years. Yes it sounds stupid but that is just how contracts are now. 

[sportsfan8703]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Bradish throws a lot of sliders..gotta wonder if that has anything to do with this?  Does it put more stress on the elbow?  
 

I have to admit, while I always worry about pitchers injuries, Grayson was the one that I was really worried about.  Hopefully that doesn’t come to fruition.

We haven't had to deal with pitching tears/injuries in a long time.  Give it a week and we'll all be orthopedic surgeons in our own minds.  

My question would be... with a partial tear, how much does it have to be torn to necessitate a full surgery?  I guess we'll find out. 

[TopGunnar]

18 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Go get Cease.  Offer up Cowser or Kjerstad to lead the package and get it done.  You have the ability to do it and you have the need now..not to mention he is here next year, which helps with the loss of Burnes.

If you get lucky and Bradish comes back this year, even better. 

There’s no need to panic and be irrational. Kjersted and Cowser are not being traded. Irvin, Wells, Kremer can handle the workload.