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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Does the 6th inning not count?   

Anyway, your math is wrong.  He threw 59 of 98 pitches for strikes.  You say he was 12-21 in the 6th.  That makes him 47 of 77 through 5.   That’s 61%, not 65%.

But anyway, you’re picking one negative sentence in @Sports Guy’s post, when mostly he’s posting something positive.   Seems like you’re just looking to pick a fight, and/or overly defensive about any criticism of Povich, no matter how mild.   

For me, if I were to grade Povich’s progress this year compared to my expectations, I’d probably give him a 9.9 out of 10.   Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t work on the 0.1.   

I wanted to see him going 6+ innings pretty regularly as a next step in his progression.  Well, there’s one.  



 

 

It absolutely counts.  Context is something the idiot leaves out, every single time.  

I reversed out the S & B's, good catch as it wasn't intentional.  61% with the ABS plays.    

It's the sentence he started out with.  He continuously does it and yes, I single him out every time.  And will continue to do so.  The guys openly admits he doesn't watch the games, reads the boxscore & comes in with his ridiculous takes.

Absolutely, always something to work on. 

Pipe dream with a high strikeout guy and the ABS.  Thank goodness, at least for him, the Orioles are more than good with where he's at.

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8 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

1) you didn’t answer my question..predictably.

2) All that shows is that he wears down as the game goes on, which is something we have discussed as a potential issue.

 

65% plays = answering the question.  

Oh my, a pitcher wears down in the 6th inning!  Demote him to Aberdeen!!

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11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I think it means it was 12 balls and 9 strikes in the 6th inning and then the math would work out.

Of course, that assumes he’s right/being honest about what it what through 5 IP. 

Here’s the 6th inning:

Fly out on a 1-1 count  

Walk on a 3-1 count (4 balls total)

Strikeout on a 1-2 count

Single on a 1-1 count

Strikeout on a 2-2 count   

I only count 9 balls there, so I’m pretty sure he meant 12 strikes, 9 balls. 
 

(Edit - he’s since confirmed this)
 

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1 minute ago, HuskerFan said:

 

65% plays = answering the question.  

Oh my, a pitcher wears down in the 6th inning!  Demote him to Aberdeen!!

No it doesn’t answer the question.

The question was, if you can’t throw strikes consistently, can you be a successful ML starter.   That’s a simple question for you to answer.  Can you be an adult and answer it?

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Here’s the 6th inning:

Fly out on a 1-1 count  

Walk on a 3-1 count (4 balls total)

Strikeout on a 1-2 count

Single on a 1-1 count

Strikeout on a 2-2 count   

I only count 9 balls there, so I’m pretty sure he meant 12 strikes, 9 balls.  

Oh ok.  So he lied about the 65%.  Got it.  

Thank you for that info.

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18 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

No it doesn’t answer the question.

The question was, if you can’t throw strikes consistently, can you be a successful ML starter.   That’s a simple question for you to answer.  Can you be an adult and answer it?

 

It plays.  60% plays.  61% plays.  65% plays. 

Your inability to understand what that means isn't a surprise, Box Score Billy.

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20 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Oh ok.  So he lied about the 65%.  Got it.  

Thank you for that info.

 

I reversed out the S & B doing the math.  Innocent mistakes are human nature.  

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8 minutes ago, HuskerFan said:

 

It plays.  60% plays.  61% plays.  65% plays. 

Your inability to understand what that means isn't a surprise, Box Score Billy.

Life would be a lot better if you and Sports Guy stopped the name calling and just focused on the substance.  

Povich has thrown 61.9% strikes this year.  Major league average is 63.9%.  I do think ABS factors in because, per Ump Scorecard, major league umps call 12% of true balls as strikes, but only 3% of true strikes as balls.  So major league umps are more favorable to pitchers than an accurate strike zone would be.  

Povich’s 3.9 BB/9 is below the Intrrnational Lesgue average of 4.7, and at the median of the top 100 pitchers in the league per BB-ref.

Overall, command is still something for Povich to work on, but he’s made good strides and is excelling in all other areas.  

 

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7 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

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I’m assuming Frobby is the guy in the middle, Husker is the left handed creature and SportsGuy is the creature with the big mouth?

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Life would be a lot better if you and Sports Guy stopped the name calling and just focused on the substance.  

Povich has thrown 61.9% strikes this year.  Major league average is 63.9%.  I do think ABS factors in because, per Ump Scorecard, major league umps call 12% of true balls as strikes, but only 3% of true strikes as balls.  So major league umps are more favorable to pitchers than an accurate strike zone would be.  

Povich’s 3.9 BB/9 is below the Intrrnational Lesgue average of 4.7, and at the median of the top 100 pitchers in the league per BB-ref.

Overall, command is still something for Povich to work on, but he’s made good strides and is excelling in all other areas.  

 

I don’t know.  I’m enjoying it and Boxscore Billy is gold.  🙂

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