The 2024 Trade Deadline

[Sports Guy]

17 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I wouldn’t invest any assets to “protect a lead”. We need to invest assets in to “get a lead” first. 

That’s two SP and call up Holliday and Mayo.

1. Gunnar SS L

2. Adley C S

3. Santa RF S

4. Mayo DH R

5. O’Hearn 1B L

6. Westburg R 3B

7. Kjerstad L LF 

8. Cowser/Mullins L CF

9. Holliday 2B L

Not investing in the BP would be more foolish than not investing in the rotation.

 

[sportsfan8703]

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Not investing in the BP would be more foolish than not investing in the rotation.

 

How?  You gotta have the lead in order to protect it?  In a 5+ game series we need a game 3 and 4 SP. 

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

How?  You gotta have the lead in order to protect it?  In a 5+ game series we need a game 3 and 4 SP. 

Bullpen is probably more important than the rotation in the playoffs. 
 

[Grt 2BA FL Gator]

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Bullpen is probably more important than the rotation in the playoffs. 
 

The good thing is we have a true number 1 and a talented number 2. If we didn’t have a number 1 I’d be more concerned about the rotation. We could use another starter, but we don’t need two. And we 100% have to add quality to the bullpen. 

Edited July 25 by Grt 2BA FL Gator

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Grt 2BA FL Gator said:

The good thing is we have a true number 1 and a talented number 2. If we didn’t have a number 1 I’d be more concerned about the rotation. We could use another starter, but we don’t need two. And we 100% have to add quality to the bullpen. 

I would add 2 rotation pieces but one of them would be a project/non guarantee to help this year like Detmers or Luzardo.

[Sports Guy]

I’m thinking Eflin or Fedde should be the addition. Unless Eovaldi becomes available, not getting one of those 2 would be disappointing to me.

[Just Regular]

Except OAK-LAA, the entire American League will be finished play by dinner time on getaway day.

Should be some #HugWatch this weekend.

Chronic fatigue - it is impossible to know from here (though I am sure SIGBOT would like to gather as much biometric data as ballplayers on the club would allow) but I do feel like late July, Clubs that have had to sustain sharp competitive focus 18 straight weeks may have burned a little more than Clubs that are out of it.

Marlins players are having their American Idol auditions to get the heck out of there.     Orioles players over many years have seen their leaders minimally invest in the MLB on field product.

[Frobby]

12 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Mayo playing both ends of a DH at 1B.  Interesting.   Of course, he made a fielding error and a throwing error in the first game.  I haven’t seen him play first much but when you have 6 errors in 15 starts that’s pretty brutal no matter how you slice it.  He needs some work there, apparently.

Put it this way, there are only 5 major league first baseman who’ve made 6+ errors this entire season.  The entire Orioles team has made only 4 errors at 1B this year.   

[foxfield]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Put it this way, there are only 5 major league first baseman who’ve made 6+ errors this entire season.  The entire Orioles team has made only 4 errors at 1B this year.   

Playing first base is easy.  Tell em @Frobby!

[Sports Guy]

16 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I’m thinking Eflin or Fedde should be the addition. Unless Eovaldi becomes available, not getting one of those 2 would be disappointing to me.

Although I am fully on board the Snell train if the Giants wisen up and sell.

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Put it this way, there are only 5 major league first baseman who’ve made 6+ errors this entire season.  The entire Orioles team has made only 4 errors at 1B this year.   

The absurdity of the Os not playing Mayo at first most of the time this year is really mind boggling to me.

There is no path on this team for him to play third unless massive changes were coming. It’s just not happening. It was never happening.

 

[Sports Guy]

The Athletic article on Marlins relievers:

“Everyone in the bullpen is open for conversation,” an industry source said. “Every single guy, control or no control. Pick a name, and people have inquired.”

The Marlins post one of the National League’s most effective bullpens, though that mostly flies under the radar due to the team’s dismal record. That goes beyond Scott, arguably the best reliever available, and the most sought-after member of the Marlins bullpen so far.

“Teams are going in hard (on Scott),” one source said.

Teams have also inquired about A.J. Puk(under control through 2026) and Anthony Bender (2027) and have even gone so far as to check on the asking price for Andrew Nardi(2028) and Declan Cronin (2029).

“(Miami) has so many guys that are under control,” the source said. “Smart teams want to win this year and next year.“

[Sports Guy]

Same Athletic article on Os and Flaherty:

Normally when a rental acquisition underperforms for his new club, that club wants no part of a reunion. But in the case of Detroit Tigers right-hander Jack Flaherty, the Baltimore Orioles would not rule out trading for him again, according to a source briefed on the team’s thinking.

While Flaherty, 28, was far from a success after joining the Orioles from the St. Louis Cardinalsat last year’s deadline, Baltimore officials recognized he was pitching under extenuating circumstances. He already had thrown 109 2/3 innings after combining for only 154 2/3 the previous three seasons due to injuries. The Orioles knew he might wear down, but their choices in a thin market were limited. So, when Flaherty stumbled to a 6.75 ERA in 34 2/3 innings, it wasn’t exactly a surprise.

 

Also….

 

In addition to searching for a starting pitcher, the Orioles are checking in on virtually every quality reliever available and entertaining interest in some of their veteran position players, sources said.

From the latter group, first baseman Ryan Mountcastle would be perhaps the most likely to go. Ryan O’Hearn, Ramón Urías and Anthony Santander all can play first. Moving Mountcastle also would clear a spot for top prospect Coby Mayo, a corner infielder who entered Wednesday batting .297 with 19 homers and a .967 OPS at Triple A.

A trade of center fielder Cedric Mullins would appear less likely.

[Moose Milligan]

56 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

How?  You gotta have the lead in order to protect it?  In a 5+ game series we need a game 3 and 4 SP. 

If things are getting out of hand, you need to be able to bring someone in to lock it down.  You need someone who can get strikeouts with runners on.

That, and if you can shorten a game to 7 innings, that's extremely valuable.  You're forgetting how the Royals rode a bullpen right through us in the playoffs back in 2014 or 2015, whenever that was.  There was nothing we could do.

[RZNJ]

11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Although I am fully on board the Snell train if the Giants wisen up and sell.

The Giants have generally been a bad team the first 100 games of the season.  Now, with Robbie Ray back, Snell starting to look good again, and already with Logan Webb, they could legitimately have a shot at a WS championship.   They are 4.5 games out of the wildcard with 59 to go.   After investing so much with Chapman, Soler, Ray, and Snell this would be an odd time to throw in the towel.