Jump to content

Glaring Difference In Comparing Orioles to Angels and Yankees!

Old#5fan

By Old#5fan
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

Old#5fan Hangout Grand Counsel

Old#5fan

Posted
Posted

Forget about the offense comparison, I just cannot get over how extreme the difference is between the Angels/Yankees starting pitching and bullpen to the Orioles. A lot of discussion is floated around here on a daily basis about the Orioles becoming competitive in the AL East but if you just look at the difference that exists between true WS contenders in the Angels and Yankees and how their starting pitching and bullpen performs and you can see the Orioles are not even in the same zip code when it comes to talent and performance. I seriously doubt even one Oriole BP pitcher would even make either team's roster for example. Anyone who actually thinks the Orioles could possibly compete with either of these teams next season is living in Fantasy Land. You could combine the best position players, starters, and bullpen between the Orioles and Toronto and still not realistically compete with either team next year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 117
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Old#5fan Hangout Grand Counsel

Old#5fan

Posted
  • Author
Posted
In that case we should have kept George! :eek:

I agree he was the only member of the Orioles pen who would even make a roster of a playoff team, and he was their best. That just shows how sorry the talent is on the current Orioles team. I think McPhail has tons of work remaining and I think he needs to move faster if he ever expects to make any significant headway in actually improving this team. I just don't see it as happening. When you see teams like the Yankee and Angels the Orioles realistically seem more like a high grade Triple A team in comparison, with their bullpen more like a double A pen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Flip217 Major Leaguer

Flip217

Posted
Posted

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute -- are you telling me that the team with the 3rd worst record in baseball this year, the team that almost lost 100 games isn't as good as the last two teams standing in the American League?! :eek:

Ladies and gentlemen, I think OldFan may have uncovered an ugly truth here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
NCRaven Hangout Grand Counsel

NCRaven

Posted
Posted
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute -- are you telling me that the team with the 3rd worst record in baseball this year, the team that almost lost 100 games isn't as good as the last two teams standing in the American League?! :eek:

Ladies and gentlemen, I think OldFan may have uncovered an ugly truth here.

Really what a shocking truth revealed. The Yankees and Angels are better than the Orioles. Must have taken weeks of analysis to figure that out - or a two second look at the standings after 162 games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MemorialStadKid All-Star

MemorialStadKid

Posted
Posted
Really what a shocking truth revealed. The Yankees and Angels are better than the Orioles. Must have taken weeks of analysis to figure that out - or a two second look at the standings after 162 games.

There are a BUNCH of folks on this board that believe we will go to the World Series next year with the staff that we have. They believe everyone will magically "get better" next year.

Look at any team that finished with 85+ wins and you'll see how much work still needs to be done on a team with a GM that doesn't believe in spending money and in a league that doesn't have a salary cap.

We are about 55% to where we need to be.

MSK

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Orioles4Life21 Veteran All-Star

Orioles4Life21

Posted
Posted
There are a BUNCH of folks on this board that believe we will go to the World Series next year with the staff that we have. They believe everyone will magically "get better" next year.

Look at any team that finished with 85+ wins and you'll see how much work still needs to be done on a team with a GM that doesn't believe in spending money and in a league that doesn't have a salary cap.

We are about 55% to where we need to be.

MSK

I doubt anyone ACTUALLY believes that we will win the WS next season

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • RZNJ
      Holliday optioned, McKenna recalled

      By RZNJ · Posted

      How many starts per week for Kjerstad and where?
    • dzorange
      Holliday optioned, McKenna recalled

      By dzorange · Posted

      People are really overanalyzing the promotion of a player that may be on the team for a week. Clearly sending Holliday down wasn't plan A, and neither is bringing up McKenna. If Kjerstad gets sent down when Hays comes back then we have a problem. My main takeaways from this are that Hays is coming back shortly and Kjerstad is going to get Holliday's opportunity in the lineup. Perhaps he runs with it.
    • Sports Guy
      Holliday optioned, McKenna recalled

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      Well 708 isn’t exactly that good either.  
    • RZNJ
      Holliday optioned, McKenna recalled

      By RZNJ · Posted

      His real age will match his baseball age in June.   He could have a role next year assuming Hays doesn't come back.  
    • ChosenOne21
      Gunnar/ Adley . Would Gunnar have been a good choice at 1-1?

      By ChosenOne21 · Posted

      High school players are also less likely to make the majors than college players. Picking Abrams or Witt would also increase the chances your 1:1 pick is a bust, or at least less than you hoped for. When I say Adley wasn't a "safe" pick, I meant that the Orioles didn't sacrifice much, if any, ceiling to raise the floor. I remember the vast majority of pundits saying that Adley was the most likely player in the draft to be an excellent baseball player. A few said they thought Witt or Abrams had a higher ceiling, but they also were less likely to reach it than Adley. And even they were like, "slightly higher ceiling, much lower floor, and C is more valuable than SS." Even if more all-star level players come out of high school, in that particular draft Adley was a special player who had a super high floor and a super high ceiling. The fact that high school players are more likely in general to be all-stars shouldn't blind one to the fact that there was an incredibly special college talent available at 1:1. Bottom line is the idea that the O's should have picked anyone other than Adley in that draft was a small minority opinion on draft day, and the fact that Witt and maybe Abrams ended up hitting their ceilings doesn't change the fact that Adley was the obvious choice with the information available at the time, and it's not like it didn't work out awesome for us. I would say Adley is definitely more likely to be a HOF than Abrams and probably Witt, too.
    • RZNJ
      Jackson Holliday 2024

      By RZNJ · Posted

      Yeah, but Westburg has become such a staple to the lineup and begun to establish himself offensively I thought they might do the Gunnar thing and say 3B is yours.  No more back and forth. 
    • DrungoHazewood
      Colton Cowser 2024

      By DrungoHazewood · Posted

      I'm rambling now, but the 1928 A's may have been one of the coolest teams ever to hang around. Not only did they have a bunch of these old IL Orioles, and an unbelievable stock of young talent. But Mack had brought in some old guys, I guess to provide leadership and mentoring and the like. So on this one team they had the younger HOFs: Mickey Cochrane, Al Simmons, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove. They had the Orioles in Boley, Bishop, Grove, Earnshaw. But on top of all that, they had 41-year-old Ty Cobb, 40-year-old Tris Speaker, 41-year-old Eddie Collins, 44-year-old Jack Quinn, and 35-year-old Bullet Joe Bush. Of course Cobb, Speaker, and Collins are inner-circle HOFers, among the best to ever play their position. Quinn was a grandfathered spitballer, probably worthy of a book or three, who won 96 games in his 40s and pitched his last MLB game at the age of 50. And Bush had a 17-year career where he won 196 games. The '28 A's won 98 games and only finished 2.5 games behind a Yanks team that was the freakin' '27 Yanks the year before. For '29 Mack say goodbye to Cobb, Speaker, made Collins a coach, plugged in the kids, and ran away with the league for three straight years. Until the Depression hit, Connie didn't have any other sources of income or wealth, and for the 2nd time had to sell off his stars to make payroll.

  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...