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Gosh...the update on the Rowell negotiations is disturbing. He wants slot money and we are haggling over $100,000. Great way to start his Oriole career.:mad:

Relax people. It will get done soon enough. He will be in Bluefield before summer is out.

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Bigbird, didn't you mention at one point that Mazzone didn't think much of Ortiz, or was I dreaming about that?

AFAIK, we don't know much about what Leo thinks, 'cause he doesn't talk about people much.

AFAIK, all we know is the Braves gave up detritus for him, at which point he went 21-7 for them, followed by a 15-9. Then they let him walk rather than pay him $7m/yr, which is something they do a lot.

ps: In 2003, he hit about like Fahey ;-)

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Loewen didn't pitch well.He was lucky that's all.

I like the Ortiz signing because if he can help, it makes Lopez expendable or could allow them to send down Loewen. Problem is, I'm not sure if Loewen's better off pitching in Bowie or here.

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Maybe Ortiz will be the baseball gods' payback for Ponson. Chances are he'll continue to flame out and be gone rather quickly but it's possible he can be resurrected so I guess it's worth a shot at this price. Loewen will be back in September at the latest and probably sooner. Hopefully he uses his experience in the majors to his benefit.

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Loewen didn't pitch well.He was lucky that's all.

I don't know if you're talking about today or in-general... but either way, I think the kid did more than fine, assuming you don't have crazy expectations of him... pretty much all he has to do is quit walking people and fine tune some things... and the stuff he does right includes important things that you can't teach... I think he pitched *very* well considering he was supposed to be in AA... even with his flaws, he general left the game up to the BP, and we've had guys do way worse than that... the kid's a pitcher, and in my book he goes in the category of "Very Pleasant Surprises"...

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I don't know if you're talking about today or in-general... but either way, I think the kid did more than fine, assuming you don't have crazy expectations of him... pretty much all he has to do is quit walking people and fine tune some things... and the stuff he does right includes important things that you can't teach... I think he pitched *very* well considering he was supposed to be in AA... even with his flaws, he general left the game up to the BP, and we've had guys do way worse than that... the kid's a pitcher, and in my book he goes in the category of "Very Pleasant Surprises"...

If Loewen is sent down, and in the best of all possible worlds he should be, who do you want to see pitching the the next time the no. 5 slot comes due, next week? Chen? Ortiz? Aaaaaggghh! I'd rather see Loewen.

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Ortiz is buy low. They're not going anywhere this year, why not see if he can get back to being a decent pitcher?? If he sucks, he gets DFA'd, if he's decent or better, like others have said, he allows you to trade R-Lo and/or Chen and he possibly fills out the 4th or 5th starter spot next year.

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Loewen didn't pitch well.He was lucky that's all.

I like the Ortiz signing because if he can help, it makes Lopez expendable or could allow them to send down Loewen. Problem is, I'm not sure if Loewen's better off pitching in Bowie or here.

He walked too many guys but nevere really gave up big hits. That's not luck, its good stuff. He just needs to harness the walk problem.

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I don't like the Ortiz signing if it means Loewen gets the boot.Loewen's innings are an investment in our future. Maybe they have a deal in place for Chen and Ortiz will go in the pen to take his place. I hope this is the case anyway.

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Loewen didn't pitch well.He was lucky that's all.

I like the Ortiz signing because if he can help, it makes Lopez expendable or could allow them to send down Loewen. Problem is, I'm not sure if Loewen's better off pitching in Bowie or here.

Or Ottawa....Canadian native back on familiar soil - albeit all the way back east from BC.

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I don't like the Ortiz signing if it means Loewen gets the boot.Loewen's innings are an investment in our future. Maybe they have a deal in place for Chen and Ortiz will go in the pen to take his place. I hope this is the case anyway.

Or maybe the dea;s for Roddy Lopez?????

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