O's would "do anything" to trade Reynolds and Gregg

[Kevin Lomax]

I've said my peace. I'm leaving now for a while. I'll check back in later.

[OFFNY]

When is Fenway's 100th anniversary? That is the first and only game this year in which I will be rooting all out for the Yankees.

Today.

[olehippi]

I would argue that Reynolds is an important cog in the Orioles potential success this year....K's, errors, and all. Also, Reynold's is not is a power slump, as someone suggested, but rather is a warm weather hitter. People were screaming last year when Reynolds hit a total of only 2 HR's in April. He upped that with 5 HR's in May, then hit 24 during June, July and Aug, and finished with 6 more in Sept. It's in the hi-80's in LA so maybe his bat will also warm up this weekend. And although his monthly K figures were rather consistent, his OBP also went up as it got warmer. I would argue that dumping on Reynolds so early in the season is premature.

As for Gregg......it's a whole different story. A change of scenery is needed.

[pinkfloydrayford]

As a kid I was always puzzled how Dave Kingman couldn't land a job after back-to-back 30 plus HR seasons with Oakland. As I got older and heard stories about what a jerk he was and read deeper into his stats (lousy defense, high K rate, low OBP, etc.), I started to get it. But still, 35 bombs looked damn good. After a year plus of Mark Reynolds, I understand completely. But they knew what they were getting. It's like buying a snake and getting upset when it bites you.

[Slappy]

At the end of the season, Mark Reynolds will be one of this team's 2 or 3 best offensive players.

A strikeout is no worse than any other out. The number of times an out advances a runner is offset completely by double plays.

[The Wedge]

At the end of the season, Mark Reynolds will be one of this team's 2 or 3 best offensive players.

A strikeout is no worse than any other out. The number of times an out advances a runner is offset completely by double plays.

If baseball was played completely on paper, that offset would jive for me. But actually watching a game? Plus, as I pointed out, every once in awhile a run scores during a double play. A run can score on a K, too, but it's way more rare. I'm no fan of the DP, as it's obviously the 2nd worst scenario for a team on offense, but the K is so inherently unproductive.

[MarylandAaron]

If baseball was played completely on paper, that offset would jive for me. But actually watching a game? Plus, as I pointed out, every once in awhile a run scores during a double play. A run can score on a K, too, but it's way more rare. I'm no fan of the DP, as it's obviously the 2nd worst scenario for a team on offense, but the K is so inherently unproductive.

And the DP is inherently a rally killer.

[The Wedge]

And the DP is inherently a rally killer.

Definitely not arguing that. I just take exception to the notion that the K is "no worse" than any other out.

[MarylandAaron]

Definitely not arguing that. I just take exception to the notion that the K is "no worse" than any other out.

Right, there are definitely two sides to this. Cal Ripken is the all-time leader in DP's and he was pretty good.

[atomic]

Huge strike out totals show a lack of knowing how to hit. Huge batting into double play counts show you are a slow runner.

[The Rick]

Huge strike out totals show a lack of knowing how to hit. Huge batting into double play counts show you are a slow runner.

What does 37 home runs and an 800 OPS show?

[theobird]

What does 37 home runs and an 800 OPS show?

what is major power for $500.00 Alex.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Reynolds has 2,950 plate appearances in his career, and 1,572 have come with the bases empty, where an out is basically an out. Of the other 1,378, you figure a third have come with 2 outs where, again, an out is an out. So that's about 70% of his career where I would say a strike out is the same as any other out.

Of the remaining 30%, you've got Reynolds who K's 1/3 of the time vs. an average player who K's, what, 1 out of 8 times? So in the end, that boils down to maybe 185 career strikeouts where another kind of out MIGHT have a different result. And sometimes that result would be worse.

I mean, sure, if you had your choice you'd want him to strike out less. But it's his defense that's the real problem. That and the extra $10.5 million they'd need to pay to pick up his 2013 option.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Reynolds has 2,950 plate appearances in his career, and 1,572 have come with the bases empty, where an out is basically an out. Of the other 1,378, you figure a third have come with 2 outs where, again, an out is an out. So that's about 70% of his career where I would say a strike out is the same as any other out.

Of the remaining 30%, you've got Reynolds who K's 1/3 of the time vs. an average player who K's, what, 1 out of 8 times? So in the end, that boils down to maybe 185 career strikeouts where another kind of out MIGHT have a different result. And sometimes that result would be worse.

I mean, sure, if you had your choice you'd want him to strike out less. But it's his defense that's the real problem. That and the extra $10.5 million they'd need to pay to pick up his 2013 option.

...and a strike out with a runner on first is actually statistically MORE valuable than a batted ball out because of the DP possibility. Basically, 100 K's over average will lose about 2-3 runs over the course of a season. It's a nonsensical thing to worry about in that sense, but for whatever reason, people do.

[Nigel Tufnel]

...and a strike out with a runner on first is actually statistically MORE valuable than a batted ball out because of the DP possibility. Basically, 100 K's over average will lose about 2-3 runs over the course of a season. It's a nonsensical thing to worry about in that sense, but for whatever reason, people do.

Right, Reynolds has 531 career PA with only a runner on 1B. Assume 1/3 of those are with 2 outs and that gives you 350 PA's where a strikeout is as good as or better than another out. I think that reduces the 185 problem strikeouts to 115, or about once every six or seven games.

So in his career, once every six games Reynolds has possibly - possibly - failed to advance a runner by a base. And you have to weigh that against the 10-15 DP's per year that he doesn't hit into. Oh, the horror.