Mitchell Report circus has past, Now lets Move on

[JTrea81]

Sorry for coming to the party late but, what comments? And thanks.

These comments:

One National League executive, who requested anonymity, said that Roberts' brief mention in the report doesn't necessarily preclude the Orioles from trading him. But it will prompt the parties involved to exercise extra caution.

"Is Brian Roberts going to get traded tomorrow? No,'' the official said. "Would a team with interest in him go ahead without checking on this? No. But you also have to see what Baltimore's position is on the whole thing. Everything is up for review right now.''

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3154064

This has got to be Hendry, he knows the O's won't trade him the day after the Mitchell Report because of how that would look, however he didn't say that there wouldn't be a trade in a few days or next week...

[Hank Scorpio]

IMO, if KC will give Jose Guillen a 3 year deal KNOWING he was gonna start the year on a 50 game suspension, then there is nothing in this report that will keep Roberts or anyone else from being looked down upon by anyone in the sport. The fans and media are the ones making a big deal over this, NOT the people inside of baseball.

Exactly.

Do you really think Ed Wade didn't know Tejada was going to be on the Mitchell Report? Of course he did. His job is to improve his team, period.

[NJOriolesFan]

How about this for a deal?

Erik Bedard to Milwaukee for J.J. Hardy, and Manny Parra? Maybe we include Roberts and make it Bedard and Roberts for Hardy, Gallardo, Weeks and Parra.

Billy Hall could move back to shortstop and Bedard replaces Parra.

We get another high quality Left Handed Starting pitcher and our shortstop of the future and current. Am I asking for too much or not enough?

C-Hernandez

1b-Huff

2b-Weeks

ss-Hardy

3b-Mora

lf-Scott

cf-Payton/Redman

rf-Markakis

dh-Moore/Millar/Gibbons/Payton

We have Weiters and Reimold on the horizon for C and DH.

We can trade Ramon, Huff, Mora, Millar, Payton and try to get a quality 1st baseman and centerfielder. We can also use pitching surplus to get a CF.

[Knife_Dixon]

How about this for a deal?

Erik Bedard to Milwaukee for J.J. Hardy, and Manny Parra? Maybe we include Roberts and make it Bedard and Roberts for Hardy, Gallardo, Weeks and Parra.

Billy Hall could move back to shortstop and Bedard replaces Parra.

We get another high quality Left Handed Starting pitcher and our shortstop of the future and current. Am I asking for too much or not enough?

C-Hernandez

1b-Huff

2b-Weeks

ss-Hardy

3b-Mora

lf-Scott

cf-Payton/Redman

rf-Markakis

dh-Moore/Millar/Gibbons/Payton

We have Weiters and Reimold on the horizon for C and DH.

We can trade Ramon, Huff, Mora, Millar, Payton and try to get a quality 1st baseman and centerfielder. We can also use pitching surplus to get a CF.

No thanks, Hardy isnt nearly as good as he looks on the surface.

[IamSpartacus]

Thought I would see what the "other half" is saying about the trade. It was very enlightening but slightly dull:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1638096

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1575177

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1641273

They seem to be high on Murton and down on Pie. They also seem to be ambivalent about Roberts. The most interesting tid-bit is a potential Roberts/Bedard deal.

Enjoy.

[Elon Os Fan]

Best of both worlds:

The Crab Pie from Matthews!

Oh sooo delish!!!!

[CrimsonTribe]

IMO, if KC will give Jose Guillen a 3 year deal KNOWING he was gonna start the year on a 50 game suspension, then there is nothing in this report that will keep Roberts or anyone else from being looked down upon by anyone in the sport. The fans and media are the ones making a big deal over this, NOT the people inside of baseball.

Guillen got a 15 day suspension. But the point remains essentially the same.

[Frobby]

I would say that, if anything, the stuff about Roberts in the report was less than what might have been feared. If I was a GM who had wanted Roberts on Wednesday, I'd actually be relieved today.

[clarence]

"For the moment, at least, right-hander Brandon Morrow has the inside track on being in the rotation. But reports out of Baltimore say the Mariners and Orioles are still involved in trade talks that would send left-hander Erik Bedard to Seattle for Morrow and outfielders Adam Jones and Wladimir Balentien.

But if the Mariners lose out on Kuroda, the Orioles might seek even more for Bedard. So far, the Mariners have refused to include either Jeff Clement or Morrow in a trade for the top-of-the-rotation lefty. " from mariners.com

Jones AND Balentien would solve a lot of problems for a lot of years. Could we get two pitchers a little lower of the scale instead of Morrow and make this work.

[glenn__davis]

Thought I would see what the "other half" is saying about the trade. It was very enlightening but slightly dull:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1638096

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1575177

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1641273

They seem to be high on Murton and down on Pie. They also seem to be ambivalent about Roberts. The most interesting tid-bit is a potential Roberts/Bedard deal.

Enjoy.

Thanks for posting, Spartacus. They seem to be some pretty intelligent fans over there.

The one thing I will say is that they offered some pretty weak packages for Bedard. I don't think a lot of fans of other teams realize just how good he is.

[amateurfan]

Thought I would see what the "other half" is saying about the trade. It was very enlightening but slightly dull:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1638096

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1575177

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=260#s=260&f=1167&t=1641273

They seem to be high on Murton and down on Pie. They also seem to be ambivalent about Roberts. The most interesting tid-bit is a potential Roberts/Bedard deal.

Enjoy.

Thanks for posting these. I read through the entire first one. I thought that they had some flaws in assessing Roberts stats and Bedard's projections. Roberts tailed hard at the end of the season. His stats were much better before the 30-1. That has to be considered. So too does the protection Roberts would have in a Cubs line-up. He would flourish there.

As for Bedard, the difference between a 3.5 nl era and a 3.8 al east era with no bullpen is huge. Bedard is far better than Hill or Zambrano. Nevertheless, interesting, again, to read other fans and their ideas. One person suggested E Patterson for Roberts straight up.

[davearm]

I am not sure it would any stranger than the Stros trading for Tejada the day before.

However, if we have to wait a week for it to die down some, then that's ok.

We have plenty of Cubs fans on here right now....I haven't gotten the impression from any of them that they would have any backlash towards the Cubs organization if they traded for BRob.

Perhaps Hendry is feeling left out of the fun since no current Cubs were named in the report?

[Mackus]

Jones AND Balentien would solve a lot of problems for a lot of years. Could we get two pitchers a little lower of the scale instead of Morrow and make this work.

Jones, Balentien, and Morrow is a great offer. Don't know if I like that better than Cueto, Votto, and Hamilton, but either would be a very good package for Bedard.

[davearm]

These comments:

One National League executive, who requested anonymity, said that Roberts' brief mention in the report doesn't necessarily preclude the Orioles from trading him. But it will prompt the parties involved to exercise extra caution.

"Is Brian Roberts going to get traded tomorrow? No,'' the official said. "Would a team with interest in him go ahead without checking on this? No. But you also have to see what Baltimore's position is on the whole thing. Everything is up for review right now.''

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3154064

This has got to be Hendry, he knows the O's won't trade him the day after the Mitchell Report because of how that would look, however he didn't say that there wouldn't be a trade in a few days or next week...

That doesn't sound anything like Hendry.

For one thing, if he had his way, Roberts absolutely would get traded tomorrow. Today, preferrably.

And for another, Hendry isn't one to play games like this. He's got a well-earned reputation in the industry as a standup, straight shooter.

And for yet another, Hendry and MacPhail are friends.

[davearm]

I would say that, if anything, the stuff about Roberts in the report was less than what might have been feared. If I was a GM who had wanted Roberts on Wednesday, I'd actually be relieved today.

This is very true.

With the Grimsley stuff having already been out there, this had the potential to be far uglier for Roberts.