Roch: Tigers covet Hardy

[srock]

Orioles with Hardy + Saunders at $7 million is better then Orioles sans Hardy but with Porcello for cheap.

It's gonna take a lot of mustard to make this sausage sing.

[NCRaven]

Clearly, I think the problem for the Tigers is that we won't do Hardy for Porcello straight up and haven't been able to agree on what else needs to go into the deal. They must feel that adding another team like the Cubs would let them get Hardy, the Cubs get Porcello, and the Orioles to get a package of players from the other two teams that will meat our needs. I know nothing about either of their farm systems or young major leaguers with potential that they might be convinced to part with. Either Flaherty or Valencia could be a short-term answer until Schoop, or someone else, is ready.

[clapdiddy]

Clearly, I think the problem for the Tigers is that we won't do Hardy for Porcello straight up and haven't been able to agree on what else needs to go into the deal. They must feel that adding another team like the Cubs would let them get Hardy, the Cubs get Porcello, and the Orioles to get a package of players from the other two teams that will meat our needs. I know nothing about either of their farm systems or young major leaguers with potential that they might be convinced to part with. Either Flaherty or Valencia could be a short-term answer until Schoop, or someone else, is ready.

I was actually thinking of a platoon situation there. That could work until Schoop is ready.

[wildcard]

The Tigers can covet all they want. They are not getting Hardy. Buck loves the guy.

[Can_of_corn]

The Tigers can covet all they want. They are not getting Hardy. Buck loves the guy.

Why does that make him untouchable? Last I checked it wasn't Buck's call. I am sure he has input but it isn't ultimately his decision. If DD is serious about improving the team OBP then Hardy is a logical piece to move.

[joe42]

Wouldn't be surprised if Arizona were also very interested in Hardy. The shortstop that they aquired is not major league ready. Detroit however is in the win right now mode and may very well overpay. DD has options, and i would't expect Hardy to go anywhere without an overpay.imo.

[Can_of_corn]

Wouldn't be surprised if Arizona were also very interested in Hardy. The shortstop that they aquired is not major league ready. Detroit however is in the win right now mode and may very well overpay. DD has options, and i would't expect Hardy to go anywhere without an overpay.imo.

I don't think AZ trades Bauer for that kid then looks for another shortstop.

[weams]

I don't think AZ trades Bauer for that kid then looks for another shortstop.

Absolutely the case. In My Opinion.

[Corolla35]

I wonder if the Mariners are still interested in Porcello. I could see the 3 way along the lines of Porcello -> Mariners, Smoak -> Orioles, Hardy -> Tigers. Of course, more players would involved since I would expect more than just Smoak for Hardy. But this can't be a bad starting point.

[Singleton]

If they covet Hardy so much, maybe they'll part with Castellanos.

That's the only way the deal makes much sense for the Os. Porcello by himself is laughable as is most of the pitching the Cubs would be willing to trade. Before AZ found their shortstop, I always thought a 3 way trade involving Hardy to AZ, Upton to Tex and Olt to the O's made sense as well with some other pieces added in different pots.

[wildcard]

Why does that make him untouchable? Last I checked it wasn't Buck's call. I am sure he has input but it isn't ultimately his decision. If DD is serious about improving the team OBP then Hardy is a logical piece to move.

You must be kidding. If you think that DD would trade Hardy over Buck's objection, well, I just don't agree that would ever happen.

[Tx Oriole]

Why does that make him untouchable? Last I checked it wasn't Buck's call. I am sure he has input but it isn't ultimately his decision. If DD is serious about improving the team OBP then Hardy is a logical piece to move.

I don't think should be moved. Manny goes to SS if Hardy is moved but then

3rd becomes a problem. I say leave the infield as it is. The pitchers will need

good defense behind them. No Hardy makes it more difficult for them. IMO *

[wildcard]

Wouldn't be surprised if Arizona were also very interested in Hardy. The shortstop that they aquired is not major league ready. Detroit however is in the win right now mode and may very well overpay. DD has options, and i would't expect Hardy to go anywhere without an overpay.imo.

The O's are in right now mode also. Yankees and Red Sox are off from their normal elite status and Tampa just traded Shields. Meanwhile many of the O's player are reaching their prime. Time to go for it.

[joe42]

I don't think AZ trades Bauer for that kid then looks for another shortstop.

You may be right. I just don't think that the kid is ready for the majors.

[Can_of_corn]

You must be kidding. If you think that DD would trade Hardy over Buck's objection, well, I just don't agree that would ever happen.

I don't think it will happen but I think for the right deal it would. If he wouldn't then he just needs to quit and let Buck wear both hats.

I don't think should be moved. Manny goes to SS if Hardy is moved but then

3rd becomes a problem. I say leave the infield as it is. The pitchers will need

good defense behind them. No Hardy makes it more difficult for them. IMO *

I have already stated in this thread that the lack of an adequate option at third base makes moving Hardy an issue in 2013.