Is it safe to say that Chen and Norris won't be a Oriole in 2016?

[Can_of_corn]

Outside of Chen, I don't even know who is a safe bet for a QO now.

Davis.

[Orioles0615]

Outside of Chen, I don't even know who is a safe bet for a QO now.

Would Boras really have a guy accept one?

[Can_of_corn]

Would Boras really have a guy accept one?

Not anyone that would warrant one.

[zxlkho]

Would Boras really have a guy accept one?

This is why I think Wieters will get one as well. Boras would never let him accept it.

[Can_of_corn]

This is why I think Wieters will get one as well. Boras would never let him accept it.

If he plays around half the season and doesn't look good I can see Boras suggesting he accept the QO so he can have a do-over walk year.

[weams]

Would Boras really have a guy accept one?

Never. He never would. He wouldn't let Drew and Morales sign. None of his guys will. On principle.

[weams]

If he plays around half the season and doesn't look good I can see Boras suggesting he accept the QO so he can have a do-over walk year.

Can't expose a catcher that way. Think McCann. Even if he needs to take a lower AAV. Boras has to get him four years.

[Orioles0615]

Never. He never would. He wouldn't let Drew and Morales sign. None of his guys will. On principle.

Then hopefully we offer al 3 QOs, barring any extension.

[Can_of_corn]

Can't expose a catcher that way. Think McCann. Even if he needs to take a lower AAV. Boras has to get him four years.

If he plays 70 games and has a .660 OPS he isn't getting four years.

[zxlkho]

If he plays 70 games and has a .660 OPS he isn't getting four years.

I could absolutely still see a team giving him 4 years.

[Crazysilver03]

If he plays around half the season and doesn't look good I can see Boras suggesting he accept the QO so he can have a do-over walk year.

In this situation, I doubt the team even offers the QO.

[weams]

If he plays 70 games and has a .660 OPS he isn't getting four years.

He's say it was surgical. And hell take 12 AAV. It will seem like a deal. A make good could flush it all if he still stinks. Which is very likely after Tommy John.

[Can_of_corn]

He's say it was surgical. And hell take 12 AAV. It will seem like a deal. A make good could flush it all if he still stinks. Which is very likely after Tommy John.

And a team would give up a pick and 12 AAV over four?

I don't see it.

[Crazysilver03]

I could absolutely still see a team giving him 4 years.

I don't. I can't see it. For the most part teams are smarter with free agents now than years ago.

[waroriole]

Boris owns Chen so no. There is no chance.

Still think Bud gets a QO?