Duquette and Trades

[Bahama O's Fan]

The general consensus around here is that Dan is bad when it comes to trades; he gets fleeced. Is this perception or reality? When I see trades for Brach and Trumbo, it seems to me that he may not be as bad as perceived.

[weams]

The general consensus around here is that Dan is bad when it comes to trades; he gets fleeced. Is this perception or reality? When I see trades for Brach and Trumbo' date=' it seems to me that he may not be as bad as perceived.[/quote']

Dan Duquette is one of the 30 best people at making MLB trades in the world. He might not be top five.

[Frobby]

Nobody makes bad trades (or good ones) every time. Dan seems to be better at times of year when the other side doesn't have the leverage. I think on balance he has been too willing to give up young talent for rental players at the trade deadline.

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andrew Miller just completed the most dominant first half by any reliever in MLB history: <a href="https://t.co/o1STQduiQ6">https://t.co/o1STQduiQ6</a></p>— Katie Sharp (@ktsharp) <a href="

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Matt, Manny, and Chris Davis cost us.

[backwardsk]

Jake's success is a dark cloud over him.

Though, when you step back, and say he turned Devin Jones and Steve Clevenger into two all-stars, I don't know why he gets the criticism.

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[Bahama O's Fan]

Jake's success is a dark cloud over him.

Though, when you step back, and say he turned Devin Jones and Steve Clevenger into two all-stars, I don't know why he gets the criticism.

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At the time, did anyone really think the trade was a bad one? I think people were calling for Arrieta and Strop to be DFA at the time.

[MagicBird]

People can think and say what they want, but after 14 consecutive losing seasons we've seen a change and its a change I happen to like. And those trades have brought positive change.

BTW, do we still have the best record in the AL since 2012?

[weams]

People can think and say what they want, but after 14 consecutive losing seasons we've seen a change and its a change I happen to like. And those trades have brought positive change.

BTW, do we still have the best record in the AL since 2012?

I understand. But the OP is directing it specifically to his ability with trades, and I'd like to see it say on that.

[weams]

BTW, do we still have the best record in the AL since 2012?

Wouldn't that have to be the case?

[weams]

At the time' date=' did anyone really think the trade was a bad one? I think people were calling for Arrieta and Strop to be DFA at the time.[/quote']

I wanted to see Arrieta again as an Oriole like folks want to see Ubaldo.

Pedro? He could not stay on a competitive team at that point. He had to be DFA that day.

[Frobby]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andrew Miller just completed the most dominant first half by any reliever in MLB history: <a href="https://t.co/o1STQduiQ6">https://t.co/o1STQduiQ6</a></p>— Katie Sharp (@ktsharp) <a href="

">July 11, 2016</a></blockquote>

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Matt, Manny, and Chris Davis cost us.

I think Katie Sharp is entitled to her opinion. Here's her argument:

Andrew Miller has been arguably the most valuable pitcher on the Yankees staff thus far, featuring video game-like stats that haven’t been duplicated by anybody before this year. He is the only player in major-league history to pitch at least 35 innings in the first half and post an ERA below 1.50, a strikeout rate of at least 15.0 per nine innings and a WHIP below 1.00.

http://riveraveblues.com/2016/07/yankeemetrics-escape-from-the-jake-july-7-10-141361/

Great numbers, but who says those cut-off points on those three stats are what you should use to determine who had the most dominant half in baseball history?

I say Zach Britton is the first reliever to have an ERA below 1.00, a WHIP below 1.00, a K rate over 10 and a GB rate over 75% in over 35 innings in the first half. (Not that I've actually checked, but I think it's highly likely to be true.) Who's to say that isn't a better measure of dominance?

[duffaphonic]

The late season trades havent been good. Parra, Feldman KRod for example. The trade for Andrew Miller was great

[weams]

That Miller trade won an ALDS for the Orioles.

[ChuckS]

Recent deadline deals have not worked out well for us. Davies, EdRod, and Hader were all traded for players who weren't the difference between making or missing the playoffs. Imagine having those three guys in our organization right now.

Arrieta was a failed pitcher here who received multiple chances. You can't be mad about the trade. Anger towards the coaches responsible for developing pitchers may be warranted.

With all that said, I like that he is willing to take risks to improve the team just wish the personnel involved had been different.

[ChuckS]

That Miller trade won an ALDS for the Orioles.

That's HIGHLY debatable. We swept the Tigers. I don't think Miller won us all four games.