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Baseball Tonight was talking about Sam being fired and how it wasnt his fault and that it went way beyond him. They were talking about how the bullpen was supposed to hold leads but they didnt.

Then Kruk went on to say that that O's job as manager would be the last thing he would do and would sign with every other team before he would sign with the O's.

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I was about to post a thread on this, ill just put it here.

Phillps and Kruk both say that they think Mazzonne will stay, and of course Davey Johnson and Girardi are the leading names being thrown around.

What I don't like is when discussing the woes of the O's, Kruk throws in "If Im a Manager out there I would take any other job before taking the job there, its the last team I would want to manage"

Steve Phillips added that the team is no where near contending and its almost entirely due to our bullpen.

This team has a lot of young talent, and even more in the farm system, I can think of many teams I would rather not manage if Im a Manager looking for a job.

Kruks a fool.

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Baseball Tonight was talking about Sam being fired and how it wasnt his fault and that it went way beyond him. They were talking about how the bullpen was supposed to hold leads but they didnt.

Then Kruk went on to say that that O's job as manager would be the last thing he would do and would sign with every other team before he would sign with the O's.

Jeeeze! Boy we can cross him off the list... too bad I wanted Kruk to manage! Ah, maybe the next time... ;)

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I was about to post a thread on this, ill just put it here.

Phillps and Kruk both say that they think Mazzonne will stay, and of course Davey Johnson and Girardi are the leading names being thrown around.

What I don't like is when discussing the woes of the O's, Kruk throws in "If Im a Manager out there I would take any other job before taking the job there, its the last team I would want to manage"

Steve Phillips added that the team is no where near contending and its almost entirely due to our bullpen.

This team has a lot of young talent, and even more in the farm system, I can think of many teams I would rather not manage if Im a Manager looking for a job.

Kruks a fool.

I guess Phillips hasn't been watching the team play.
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Just ripped this team apart on Baseball Tonight. Granted, I don't think either of these guys are particularly bright. Their main points were as follows:

1) Phillips: Perlozzo not the problem, the bullpen is the problem

He is correct here, but fails to realize the lineup was the even bigger problem

2) Both: The team is horribly put together, and the blame should be on Flanagan moreso than Perlozzo.

I tend to agree here, altough Perlozzo definitely should've been fired.

3) Kruk said he talked to Perlozzo, and is convinced Mazzone will stay because he really loves the pitching staff.

Cosidering this is coming from someone bashing the O's, this is good news.

4) Kruk: He would take any managing job in baseball over the Orioles job.

5) Both: The Orioles are not only bad, they are becoming irrelevant

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Just for the record, Kruk didn't say it was the last job HE would take, he said if He was one of the many various available managers, he would want anything but Baltimore.

Im sure even he knows he would be terrible on the bench.

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I'm not sure how F&D were spared this axe. It's their contracts and trades on the field. Unless they have convinced PA that he nixed a few trades that would have immensely helped the team, they should be gone.

MacPhail is a nice step in the right direction, but there are other baseball people I'd rather have than the F&D calling the shots.

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