Britton Out 6 months per Rosenthal

[OriolesMagic83]

The decision to not trade Britton at the trade deadline looks even worse.  I can't see the O's even getting a draft pick for him now.

I agree, time to blow up the team. 90+ losses whether or not Manny is traded--and I'm someone who always think the O's will be better next year. 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Can they release him, sign him to a much lower deal, 60 day DL him (so he isn't taking up a 40 spot) and then evaluate him from there?

[atomic]

You have to release Britton.  As to the poster saying it hurts the teams reputation it does not.  Free agents would not be affected by it.  And pre free agent players would learn to ask for extensions so this doesnt happen to them.  

No way Britton will be pitching in 6 months.  This season is gone for him and he won't get mich of a contract for next season.  If he wants to blame anyone blame Boras for not getting him an extension.

i guess they will try to win in arbitration and release him the next day.

[foxfield]

Have been awash in work on the farm today and missed all news.  Today may not make the 100 most important dates in Oriole history, but today sucks.  It is a punch to the stomach and I have personally been so distraught over losing Manny (now or later) that today is almost unbearable.  I have skipped to here, so I am sure I have missed those who advocated for trading Manny or Zach earlier have used the news of Zach's injury as confirmation of ineptitude, but what happened here is simply horrendous luck.  It could have been Schoop, or Brach or anyone, but it wasn't.  I do think the path forward is rebuild and if there is a silver lining, it is this:  We have a much better chance of keeping a bunch of rule 5 guys if they can perform.  They will certainly get the chance.

 

But wouldn't it be nice if the baseball god's once...smiled on the O's?

 

Zach, I am sorry for your injury and I hope that you offer yourself to the O's on a two year deal to reestablish yourself.  But I am not holding my breath.  Today's event's have sort of taken the wind out of me.

[Finisher]

You release him or give him something like 2/15.

Simply moronic and indefensible not to have traded him.

Could have gotten hauls for Britton, Machado and Brach and now we likely wind up with nothing in a year.

[Can_of_corn]

10 minutes ago, Finisher said:

You release him or give him something like 2/15.

Simply moronic and indefensible not to have traded him.

Could have gotten hauls for Britton, Machado and Brach and now we likely wind up with nothing in a year.

Depending on how much the Rays' sell off they might get the O's a fourth place finish.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Can they release him, sign him to a much lower deal, 60 day DL him (so he isn't taking up a 40 spot) and then evaluate him from there?

The Orioles can talk to Zach about it, but there are no guarantees.  If the Orioles are in last place n May, Zach might decide to sign with the Astros, Cubs, etc. 

I don't know if Zach would be in a rush to sign right away, unless he wants the financial security of having a guaranteed contract.  This is a serious injury and Zach could have setbacks while rehabbing.  

[Legend_Of_Joey]

19 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

The Orioles can talk to Zach about it, but there are no guarantees.  If the Orioles are in last place n May, Zach might decide to sign with the Astros, Cubs, etc. 

I don't know if Zach would be in a rush to sign right away, unless he wants the financial security of having a guaranteed contract.  This is a serious injury and Zach could have setbacks while rehabbing.  

That's the point. Reach an injury settlement now and re sign him now instead of waiting until June. But re sign him now and 60 day DL him as soon as Spring Training is over, since that is when the real roster set up begins.

[mcneck]

13 hours ago, MikeAD said:

No.  Absolutely not.   He's missed and will miss too much time and we will be lucky to turn his current contract into value either on our field or via return.  Our best hope is he is in top form when hes back from this and we can move him.  A contract extension wont increase the trade value of a closer/set up man entering their 30s.  He hits free agency at 31 and whatever contract he gets wont be a net win for the team.  

 

i think I'd be tempted at the right price 3/18.. 4/22?

[Number5]

1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

That's the point. Reach an injury settlement now and re sign him now instead of waiting until June. But re sign him now and 60 day DL him as soon as Spring Training is over, since that is when the real roster set up begins.

I believe that arbitration rules require that the Orioles offer be at least 85% of last year's salary, so they can't really reach an injury settlement now.

[POR]

3 hours ago, mcneck said:

 

i think I'd be tempted at the right price 3/18.. 4/22?

Really?  Scott Boras is going to have Britton sign a four year contract for $22 million because Britton is going to miss half of 2018. Tommy Hunter is making almost as much for two years.  If the Orioles release Britton, someone will offer two years at around $20 million.  Drew Slyly and Michael Pineda are going to miss all of 2018 and already signed discounted two year contracts not discounted four years contracts.

[wildcard]

4 hours ago, Number5 said:

I believe that arbitration rules require that the Orioles offer be at least 85% of last year's salary, so they can't really reach an injury settlement now.

Britton's maximum reduction is 30% of last year's salary or 3.42m.    That would make his salary 11.4 times 70% or 7.98m

If a player's salary increased by more than 50% the previous year than his salary can be reduced 30%.   Britton's increase from 20t6 to 2017 was 69%l   so his salary can to reduced  30%.

I expect that because of the reports on his injury that his rehab time will be reduced to 4 months.  That will be April 22nd.     That is when he would start his rehab assignment.  So if he is available to the team by May 22nd he would be available to the O's for just over 4 months.   

I think the O's will pay Britton 7.98m for 4 months of playing time.   So I don't see him being released.

If the O's are out of the race at the trade deadline and Britton is healthy at that point he gets traded.   His remain salary would be 2.66m.   That means the O's would have paid Britton 5.32m for the year.   Seeing the count of pitching that is a gamble worth taking.

[Luke-OH]

37 minutes ago, POR said:

Really?  Scott Boras is going to have Britton sign a four year contract for $22 million because Britton is going to miss half of 2018. Tommy Hunter is making almost as much for two years.  If the Orioles release Britton, someone will offer two years at around $20 million.  Drew Slyly and Michael Pineda are going to miss all of 2018 and already signed discounted two year contracts not discounted four years contracts.

I think the 3 and 4 year deals are wishful thinking, but it is important to remember that achilles injuries can very well end careers.  It's worse than an ACL or TJS.  I don't think the Orioles are the type of team to take that kind of risk anyways, even though the potential upside would be great.

[sportsfan8703]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Britton's maximum reduction is 30% of last year's salary or 3.42m.    That would make his salary 11.4 times 70% or 7.98m

If a player's salary increased by more than 50% the previous year than his salary can be reduced 30%.   Britton's increase from 20t6 to 2017 was 69%l   so his salary can to reduced  30%.

I expect that because of the reports on his injury that his rehab time will be reduced to 4 months.  That will be April 22nd.     That is when he would start his rehab assignment.  So if he is available to the team by May 22nd he would be available to the O's for just over 4 months.   

I think the O's will pay Britton 7.98m for 4 months of playing time.   So I don't see him being released.

If the O's are out of the race at the trade deadline and Britton is healthy at that point he gets traded.   His remain salary would be 2.66m.   That means the O's would have paid Britton 5.32m for the year.   Seeing the count of pitching that is a gamble worth taking.

The local sports medicine doc on 105.7 last night said that it’s more likely that Britton is out longer than 6 than it is that he is back quicker than 6 months. 

Its time to be realistic and cut ties. The guy has had shoulder problems. Pre cursors to TJ last year. Let injuries. Now a blown out Achilles. It’s a good chance he could rehab through the Achilles only to find out he needs TJ surgery. 

We need to pay him the minimum (45 days of contract) and release him. Use that 10 million elsewhere. We don’t owe Britton anything. It sucks that he got hurt, but he will likely miss all of 2018 and still get a pretty good one year deal for 2019. 

I would let O’day close with 2-3 run leads(easy saves). Brach is better when he’s pitching more and keeps command of all three pitches. No need to have Givens racking up saves and blowing his future  arbitration numbers up. 

[wildcard]

I am not a doctor but Britton stated that the doctor told him that the Achilles did not retracted and therefore the surgery may not be as extensive as if it had retracted.   It will be interesting to see what they say after the surgery today.