Time to get creative

[webbrick2010]

Sign Cobb, 3 years 40 million

year 1: 20 million

year 2: player option 12 million

year 3: player option 8 million

[Camden_yardbird]

Creativity=Risk

Risk=Not the Orioles

[wildbillhiccup]

He's not signing for less than a four year deal. Someone will blink and give it to him. All it takes is one spring training injury to push teams into panic mode. 

[Aglets]

43 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

Creativity=Risk

Risk=Not the Orioles

Creativity can also = the Cashner and Tillman contracts with incentives that are actually pretty low risk

[jabba72]

2 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Sign Cobb, 3 years 40 million

year 1: 20 million

year 2: player option 12 million

year 3: player option 8 million

I like 3/40. I dont like player opt outs after year one and two. He could easily pitch to a 4.00 ERA and opt out, knowing he would still get a better contract.  

[webbrick2010]

6 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

I like 3/40. I dont like player opt outs after year one and two. He could easily pitch to a 4.00 ERA and opt out, knowing he would still get a better contract.  

My thinking is that the O's want to compete in 2018, and then re-build in 2019 and beyond, so my thought process was to throw an irresistible amount of money at him in 2018,

with a low player option for 2019, 2020 to give Cobb some insurance against an injury, but if he pitches well the O's have him for one year and can start the re-build in 2019 Win/Win

[Camden_yardbird]

35 minutes ago, Aglets said:

Creativity can also = the Cashner and Tillman contracts with incentives that are actually pretty low risk

That's not creative, it's lazy.  

[interloper]

If it's one thing the O's are not, it's creative. 

[backwardsk]

I'd scrap the option years if I could.  He'd only exercise them if he had a bad season.

Didn't he turn down 3/50+ from the Cubs earlier in the offseason?

[clapdiddy]

16 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

I'd scrap the option years if I could.  He'd only exercise them if he had a bad season.

Didn't he turn down 3/50+ from the Cubs earlier in the offseason?

I believe the Cubs offer was around 3/42.

Personally, I'd rather have Lynn, but I'd be OK with Cobb.

[Il BuonO]

1 minute ago, clapdiddy said:

I believe the Cubs offer was around 3/42.

Personally, I'd rather have Lynn, but I'd be OK with Cobb.

He may regret not taking that before it’s all said and done.

[interloper]

15 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I believe the Cubs offer was around 3/42.

Personally, I'd rather have Lynn, but I'd be OK with Cobb.

Why? Genuinely curious as I haven't studied each guy all that closely.

[backwardsk]

19 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I believe the Cubs offer was around 3/42.

Personally, I'd rather have Lynn, but I'd be OK with Cobb.

I was thinking it was 3/52, but you're probably right.  $14M per sounds right from what I recall.

[OriolesMagic83]

I still think some team give Cobb 4 years.  What are the other pitchers still available other than Cobb, Lynn, and Arrietta?

[webbrick2010]

37 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I believe the Cubs offer was around 3/42.

Personally, I'd rather have Lynn, but I'd be OK with Cobb.

I like Cobb because he has a lower BB rate in the AL than Lynn had in the NL

Putting any extra men on base can lead to disaster at Camden Yards (See most of the O's 2017 rotation).