Poll: Will the O's sign the Mesa brothers?

[LookitsPuck]

No. Because: Cuban community, Marlins still have a decent chunk of change to get him and the dysfunction of the front office all play against the Orioles.

Which will make the Gausman trade extra idiotic.

[weams]

10 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

No. Because: Cuban community, Marlins still have a decent chunk of change to get him and the dysfunction of the front office all play against the Orioles.

Which will make the Gausman trade extra idiotic.

Dan's gone.  Kevin is Kevin.

[LookitsPuck]

Are people also forgetting this idiotic move? 

"August 27th 10:49pm: Zoellner cost the O’s a fairly hefty $750K in pool money, per Dan Connolly of The Athletic"

Did they not realize that the Marlins could also...you know...acquire more international pool money? It's the rough equivalent of a celebratory football spike...before you've even made a touchdown, yet.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

Are people also forgetting this idiotic move? 

"August 27th 10:49pm: Zoellner cost the O’s a fairly hefty $750K in pool money, per Dan Connolly of The Athletic"

Did they not realize that the Marlins could also...you know...acquire more international pool money? It's the rough equivalent of a celebratory football spike...before you've even made a touchdown, yet.

Roch wrote this yesterday:

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The Orioles have around $6.7 million in international signing bonus money, compared to $4.3 million for the Marlins before they received a bump yesterday from the Reds in a trade for pitcher

 

[LookitsPuck]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

Roch wrote this yesterday:

....

Right. It hasn't been announced how much of slot money the Marlins received in the trade with the Reds. Is it possible that the Marlins end up with nearly $5m? Suddenly $5m vs. $6.7m isn't all that much unless Baltimore is just going to go balls to the wall and ship it all for VVM and his brother. And to that end, they should have held on to that $750k for a total of nearly $7.5m. Being able to sign the Mesa brothers and Gaston would have been huge. 

[Morgan423]

1 hour ago, LookitsPuck said:

No. Because: Cuban community, Marlins still have a decent chunk of change to get him and the dysfunction of the front office all play against the Orioles.

Which will make the Gausman trade extra idiotic.

We'd better do something good with that international money.   It weighed in quite heavily to our moves last season.

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, LookitsPuck said:

Are people also forgetting this idiotic move? 

"August 27th 10:49pm: Zoellner cost the O’s a fairly hefty $750K in pool money, per Dan Connolly of The Athletic"

Did they not realize that the Marlins could also...you know...acquire more international pool money? It's the rough equivalent of a celebratory football spike...before you've even made a touchdown, yet.

@Can_of_corn is all over all things Zoellner.

[higgybaby]

On 10/8/2018 at 9:10 AM, Moose Milligan said:

@Can_of_corn is all over all things Zoellner.

No I don’t think they are forgetting it. Every single Mesa thread seems to have at least 9 to 10 people posting about it. 

[Frobby]

Article discussing the state of the Orioles’ international program a year after the Mesa/Gaston sweepstakes.  
 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-victor-mesa-sandy-gaston-20191017-6djkuyhftrearmbwwdwb4p3fnq-story.html

[atomic]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Article discussing the state of the Orioles’ international program a year after the Mesa/Gaston sweepstakes.  
 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-victor-mesa-sandy-gaston-20191017-6djkuyhftrearmbwwdwb4p3fnq-story.html

Pretty useless article.  Dumbest statement in the article:

"They could have helped improve the overall talent base, but not having that money to trade and help the major league team get by could have made the Orioles a far worse team to watch than they already were in 2019"

Who were these guys that were used with the money to help the major league team?

Until the Orioles actually do something internationally under Elias I think praising them is very pre-mature.  The younger Mesa Brother  and  Gaston could turn out to be decent players.  

[Aglets]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Until the Orioles actually do something internationally under Elias I think praising them is very pre-mature.  The younger Mesa Brother  and  Gaston could turn out to be decent players.  

I have a gift for you!

Here is a list of international talent signed by Mike Elias in 2019:   (list is from baseballamerica)

Baltimore Orioles
 

Luis Ortiz, lhp, Dominican Republic (video) - $400,000
Anderson Rogers, ss, Dominican Republic (video)
Luis Gonzalez, of, Dominican Republic (video) - $475,000
Leonel Sanchez, ss, Dominican Republic (video) - $400,000
Dax Stubbs, of, Bahamas
Moises Chace, rhp, Venezuela
Robert Martinez, ss, Dominican Republic
Moises Salas, lhp, Venezuela
Cesar Aguasvivas, ss, Domnican Republic
Raul Rangel, rhp, Venezuela
Luis De La Cruz, of, Dominican Republic
Charbel Abboud rhp, Venezuela
Harol Arias, rhp, Venezuela
Erick Caines, rhp, Dominican Republic
Ricardo Rivera, c, Colombia
Jesus Alvarado, of, Venezuela
Francisco Crispin, rhp, Dominican Republic
Cesar Alvarez, rhp, Venezuela
Kenny Baez, c, Dominican Republic
Rolphy Cruz, ss, Dominican Republic
Jose Ramirez, lhp, Venezuela
Edgar Portes, rhp, Dominican Republic
Johan Berroa, lhp, Dominican Republic
Randy Beriguete, rhp, Dominican Republic
Adrion Lacle, lhp, Aruba
Erinson Placencia, rhp, Dominican Republic
Alejandro Mendez, rhp, Dominican Republic

[Can_of_corn]

Shame they don't have an accurate accounting of how much has been spent.

[Aglets]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Shame they don't have an accurate accounting of how much has been spent.

How much would they have to spend to convince you that Mike is really trying?   

Hope this isn't considered trolling.   Pretty sure if you bringing this up again isn't then my reply is ok.

[interloper]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Shame they don't have an accurate accounting of how much has been spent.

Nearly $2 million, according to Joe Trezza.

[Can_of_corn]

10 minutes ago, interloper said:

Nearly $2 million, according to Joe Trezza.

So the same as last year.