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1 minute ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Wouldn't it be kind of a stretch to see a guy, clearly in much better physical shape than we last saw him, to say that he put 25 pounds of anything other than muscle? Like, he's not fatter. 

We should be questioning whether he's 25 pounds heavier, and not whether it's muscle or fat.

The point I've been trying to make is that if he put on 25 pounds all of it isn't going to be muscle.  If you want to suggest that he put on 25 pounds and his body fat stayed consistent I'm fine with that. 

It is more accurate to just say he gained 25 pounds, which is what he appears to be doing.

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https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

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1 hour ago, jarman86 said:

https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

The boby building magazine is actually against everything you are saying.  

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25 minutes ago, atomic said:

The boby building magazine is actually against everything you are saying.  

"However, even if we are dedicated (some may call it obsessed) and diligent about our nutrition, with proper training and recuperation practices, we still would not be able to add more than one pound of muscle in a week. That's right, only one pound per week—and this is assuming you've had a darn good week both inside and outside the gym!"

"Now that I've put a damper on your expectations you can step back and take a closer look at your trainingnutritional practices and recuperation tactics. There's no need to beat yourself up because you've only been able to gain a pound a week for the last 6 weeks. If anything, assuming your body fat levels have been kept at bay, you're probably on the right track."

That's what I've been saying, so I'm not sure I understand how it goes against what I've been saying.  His article states anything over a pound a week is almost unattainable or incredibly difficult.  And I don't think his audience for his article is addressed to the high performing athlete in professional sports who can train all day, every day.  

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26 minutes ago, atomic said:

Also as a 50 something year old the first article is wrong.  I can gain muscle a lot quicker at my current age than when I was 16.  

For someone who appears to have minimal knowledge on this subject and provides no reason to back this up in their response, please do oblige me and the sporting world at large.  

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2 hours ago, jarman86 said:

https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

Lots of truth bombs in this post.  

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3 hours ago, jarman86 said:

25 lbs of muscle over 5 months (Oct-Feb) is roughly a pound a week, which any trainer can tell you is doable.  He has all the resources.  Many athletes have done this.  Better eating, working out, from my experience its not that difficult.  

Resources are one thing...work ethic and discipline are another. 

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31 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

"However, even if we are dedicated (some may call it obsessed) and diligent about our nutrition, with proper training and recuperation practices, we still would not be able to add more than one pound of muscle in a week. That's right, only one pound per week—and this is assuming you've had a darn good week both inside and outside the gym!"

"Now that I've put a damper on your expectations you can step back and take a closer look at your trainingnutritional practices and recuperation tactics. There's no need to beat yourself up because you've only been able to gain a pound a week for the last 6 weeks. If anything, assuming your body fat levels have been kept at bay, you're probably on the right track."

That's what I've been saying, so I'm not sure I understand how it goes against what I've been saying.  His article states anything over a pound a week is almost unattainable or incredibly difficult.  And I don't think his audience for his article is addressed to the high performing athlete in professional sports who can train all day, every day.  

You know there is something different about gaining one pound a week for a couple weeks and 25 pounds in 25 weeks. I will give you a challenge to gain 25 pounds in the next 25 weeks of pure muscle.  Let’s see you do it.

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31 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

For someone who appears to have minimal knowledge on this subject and provides no reason to back this up in their response, please do oblige me and the sporting world at large.  

Look I see plenty of guys who go the gym and even guys that use trainers.  What you are saying doesn’t ring true.  Show me scientific studies not some journalism major just spouting off with no basis on fact.  If it were so easy for athletes to get jacked in an off season like Chris than more guys would be doing it.  

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24 minutes ago, atomic said:

Look I see plenty of guys who go the gym and even guys that use trainers.  What you are saying doesn’t ring true.  Show me scientific studies not some journalism major just spouting off with no basis on fact.  If it were so easy for athletes to get jacked in an off season like Chris than more guys would be doing it.  

I have presented you with 5 articles, that present you with studies, info and facts.  They state that what I am saying is true.  You provide what you see in the gym.  I'm assuming you don't go to the performance centers for athletes, but places where people with real actual jobs and limited resources go.  

Every year I read about football players putting on 15-25 lbs of muscle.  Aside from your ignorance and lack of knowledge, there is nothing to be gained.  You are obviously standing your ground no matter what.  

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59 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Resources are one thing...work ethic and discipline are another. 

You have decided because he didn't want to work on his swing he has no work ethic or discipline. I would say that points to ego/stubbornness or something else, not necessarily work ethic. If you say "I'm not doing that because I don't think it will help" that may be delusional but it doesn't mean poor work ethic. In any case, you can have work ethic in one thing and not another. Maybe he likes to lift and doesn't like hitting all that much anymore. If so it wouldn't be hard, with no job, to lift 5-7 times a week. It doesn't take 8 hours. 

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