John Means 2022

[Going Underground]

26 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Any chance it's Bradish on Tuesday? 

 

Tides rained out today,so if he pitches tomorrow as scheduled, not a chance.

 

Means is basically down to long rest or surgery 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

21 minutes ago, waroriole said:

I doubt it. All the beat guys are writing articles about being patient. 

 

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

Lol no chance. 

I know, it's going to be Akin if I had to bet. We'll see Bradish in 2024 because Elias doesn't want to rush him to MLB. 

[UMDTerrapins]

We’re looking at getting another 1.5 years out of him if he gets TJ soon. He basically has very little likelihood of having trade value for us again. I feel bad for him obviously, and he could still have a good number of seasons ahead of him when he returns. But other than possibly ‘24, we probably have to think of our rotation as a blank slate now. Implications are that Hall, T. Wells, Bradish, probably get more patience to stick as starters. And that we explore trades from prospect depth areas (MI/OF).

[Legend_Of_Joey]

24 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

 

I know, it's going to be Akin if I had to bet. We'll see Bradish in 2024 because Elias doesn't want to rush him to MLB. 

After the talk about how Akin is doing in the pen, I would expect Alex Wells to take the start.

[yark14]

I don't think we need to jump to "the sky is falling" TJ conclusions just yet.  Means is smart to get a 2nd opinion.  There is a really positive sign that he only felt tightness on the curveball and not other pitches.  

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

After the talk about how Akin is doing in the pen, I would expect Alex Wells to take the start.

The os need to stop forcing things. Lopez is a good BP arm, not starter, not closer 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

1 hour ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

The os need to stop forcing things. Lopez is a good BP arm, not starter, not closer 

What does Lopez have to do with my post? 

[ChuckS]

2 hours ago, yark14 said:

I don't think we need to jump to "the sky is falling" TJ conclusions just yet.  Means is smart to get a 2nd opinion.  There is a really positive sign that he only felt tightness on the curveball and not other pitches.  

That’s not how I read this situation at all.  He’s getting a second opinion because the first doctor told him he needed surgery.  Hyde would not say he’s going to be out a long time and possibly not return in 2022 if there wasn’t a serious issue. 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

What does Lopez have to do with my post? 

Leave Akkkin in the role he is in.

[Roll Tide]

6 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Leave Akkkin in the role he is in.

I’d start Akin 

[tntoriole]

4 hours ago, UMDTerrapins said:

We’re looking at getting another 1.5 years out of him if he gets TJ soon. He basically has very little likelihood of having trade value for us again. I feel bad for him obviously, and he could still have a good number of seasons ahead of him when he returns. But other than possibly ‘24, we probably have to think of our rotation as a blank slate now. Implications are that Hall, T. Wells, Bradish, probably get more patience to stick as starters. And that we explore trades from prospect depth areas (MI/OF).

This is why you trade guys like this.  How many times does this organization have to learn this the hard way?  Mullins needs to go as soon as he gets hot.  Mancini should have gone preCA.  But no we will hold and hold till they are worth nothing. 

[tntoriole]

1 hour ago, ChuckS said:

That’s not how I read this situation at all.  He’s getting a second opinion because the first doctor told him he needed surgery.  Hyde would not say he’s going to be out a long time and possibly not return in 2022 if there wasn’t a serious issue. 

The likelihood of needing elbow surgery is high 

[Sports Guy]

The Orioles should sign Means right now to a 3 year contract (including this season) for 3/13 contract with a team option for a 4th year that could make it a 4/25 contract.

This injury sucks but it shouldn’t hurt Means too much long term and that contract pays him this year, gives him a very small raise next year and a cheap contract in year 3.  It also gives him some guarantees while he gets himself through this injury.

[Bahama O's Fan]

23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

The Orioles should sign Means right now to a 3 year contract (including this season) for 3/13 contract with a team option for a 4th year that could make it a 4/25 contract.

This injury sucks but it shouldn’t hurt Means too much long term and that contract pays him this year, gives him a very small raise next year and a cheap contract in year 3.  It also gives him some guarantees while he gets himself through this injury.

Yeah, I agree but I am also the guy that wanted to sign Chris Tillman to a long term deal before his price got too high. Good thing we didn't. 

[Sports Guy]

18 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Yeah, I agree but I am also the guy that wanted to sign Chris Tillman to a long term deal before his price got too high. Good thing we didn't. 

If Means doesn’t ever pitch again, this contract wouldn’t hurt them.  There is almost zero downside.