Jorge Mateo

[MCO'sFan]

4 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

Buck inherited a bad team but there were some young players and some pieces in the farm to work with.  Adam Jones, Weiters, Tillman, Britton all of those guys were in the system when DD took over and were big parts of the winning teams.  I don't think there is anyone that was in the system when Elias took over and will be part of winning teams.  Granted the time tables are different.

I think I know what you mean but GrayRod, DL Hall, Hays, Mullins, Santander, etc were in the system before Elias. I sure hope they are part of the next winning team. 

[RVAOsFan]

1 minute ago, MCO'sFan said:

I think I know what you mean but GrayRod, DL Hall, Hays, Mullins, Santander, etc were in the system before Elias. I sure hope they are part of the next winning team. 

Wow, good call, I totally over looked that.

[MCO'sFan]

44 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I think that is my point. We're in a different place because we've followed a completely different strategy. When Elias started we were in a much worse situation than DD inherited. 

I think you are correct. The O's were in the middle of the Dark Ages. I don't remember the number of losing season but it was like 12 straight years and they were desperate to just get back to .500. DD's marching orders were to win ASAP. There was little to no thought about the mid-long term health of the team. 

[SilverRocket]

I think he's the long-term SS.

[Sydnor]

5 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

I think he's the long-term SS.

So do I.

[paullwaull]

She we just wasted a 1-1 on a SS

[Roll Tide]

29 minutes ago, paullwaull said:

She we just wasted a 1-1 on a SS

Resources for trade my man

Mateo had a great night but he still needs to improve his walk rate and maintain his improved batting.

[RZNJ]

56 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Resources for trade my man

Mateo had a great night but he still needs to improve his walk rate and maintain his improved batting.

Right. He’s by no means a good hitter but he’s not an automatic out and he’s a threat.  

[waroriole]

I really hope the 2 HR night doesn’t bring him back to the pull everything mindset. The OBP is still only .264. He needs to be in the .300 range to have any chance of being a regular on a contender. The ability is there, it’s just a matter of having consistently good ABs. 

[RZNJ]

5 minutes ago, waroriole said:

I really hope the 2 HR night doesn’t bring him back to the pull everything mindset. The OBP is still only .264. He needs to be in the .300 range to have any chance of being a regular on a contender. The ability is there, it’s just a matter of having consistently good ABs. 

He is a regular on a contender. Haha.  Just saying!

[waroriole]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

He is a regular on a contender. Haha.  Just saying!

Not when Henderson and Westburg are here. And having the 15th best record in MLB is not a contender. 

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Not when Henderson and Westburg are here. And having the 15th best record in MLB is not a contender. 

Henderson and Westburg are not here, and unfortunately under the rules the Orioles are a contender for a playoff spot.

[owknows]

It's pronounced Muh-TATER

Jorge Muh-TATER

[waroriole]

Just now, RZNJ said:

Henderson and Westburg are not here, and unfortunately under the rules the Orioles are a contender for a playoff spot.

Is being on the fringes of the playoff race what you consider a contender to be?

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Is being on the fringes of the playoff race what you consider a contender to be?

Depends what you’re contending for. If it’s a playoff spot, YES.