Former 1st rounder DFA-ed

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

Know nothing about him

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/07/royals-dfa-foster-griffin-select-drew-waters-40-man.html

[PHRESH]

Give him to the Wizard 

[Aristotelian]

Looks a little bit like the Royals version of Sedlock, who we just DFA'd. Interesting but not sure how he fits. 

[Hank Scorpio]

He's one of the guys ATL traded for the draft pick.

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

Replacement for Perez when Elias does the fire sale at the deadline?

[RZNJ]

Sounds better than Logan Allen.

[Tony-OH]

2 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Replacement for Perez when Elias does the fire sale at the deadline?

Nice try, there is little chance Elias is doing any "Firesales". Could he move some guys for nearly ready prospects or for pitching that can help in 2023 and beyond, perhaps. But we're not talking "firesales".

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Nice try, there is little chance Elias is doing any "Firesales". Could he move some guys for nearly ready prospects or for pitching that can help in 2023 and beyond, perhaps. But we're not talking "firesales".

I hope not but I am not as confidence in Elias turning the cheek on the opportunity to cut costs. I hope I am wrong. I think they should be buyers, as I have stated. 

[NCRaven]

I think that Elias will be selling veterans and buying prospects.  

[Roll Tide]

2 hours ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

I hope not but I am not as confidence in Elias turning the cheek on the opportunity to cut costs. I hope I am wrong. I think they should be buyers, as I have stated. 

There is a mountain between a fire sale and being buyers. Moving Trey, Santander, Lopez and another RP for valuable consideration is not a fire sale and not buying. That’s basically what he will probably do based on what he’s said. 

[sportsfan8703]

Would gladly DFA Lakins for him, but would gladly DFA Lakins for present day Chris Tillman or Kevin Millwood. 

Edited July 11, 2022 by sportsfan8703

[owknows]

The big question is "what's different about this year?"

And the answer of course, is that they're playing decent enough baseball to not feel the absolute need to have a fire sale.

I take Elias at his word... that he will listen to any offer, and that there are players where he'd have to be blown away by the offer.

I think being within a few games of a wildcard slot at the break, raises the requisite offer for most of the players teams would want to trade for....

... because if the offer isn't good enough... we'll just keep 'em and see what happens after call-ups.

pending FA's may cause them to lean into a trade just a little..  but otherwise, I think they're gonna need to see some real offers.

 

[Roll Tide]

24 minutes ago, owknows said:

The big question is "what's different about this year?"

And the answer of course, is that they're playing decent enough baseball to not feel the absolute need to have a fire sale.

I take Elias at his word... that he will listen to any offer, and that there are players where he'd have to be blown away by the offer.

I think being within a few games of a wildcard slot at the break, raises the requisite offer for most of the players teams would want to trade for....

... because if the offer isn't good enough... we'll just keep 'em and see what happens after call-ups.

pending FA's may cause them to lean into a trade just a little..  but otherwise, I think they're gonna need to see some real offers.

 

Again ….no one is suggesting giving away players for salary relief (fire sale). Trading the veterans that you have replacements and the expiring contracts is not a fire sale. Trading high on Lopez and perhaps Tate is not a fire sale! Being blown away would be on guys like Mullins and Hays.

[owknows]

4 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Again ….no one is suggesting giving away players for salary relief (fire sale). Trading the veterans that you have replacements and the expiring contracts is not a fire sale. Trading high on Lopez and perhaps Tate is not a fire sale! Being blown away would be on guys like Mullins and Hays.

The term fire sale means different things to different people.

I think the Orioles have made some trades in the last decade that I wouldn't necessarily call salary dumps, that I would call fire sales.

When you wait too long to deal... and have to trade from a position of "well we have to get SOMETHING"... I'd call that a fire sale, but not necessarily a traditional salary dump.

Something like the Machado trade comes to mind.

[Roll Tide]

48 minutes ago, owknows said:

The term fire sale means different things to different people.

I think the Orioles have made some trades in the last decade that I wouldn't necessarily call salary dumps, that I would call fire sales.

When you wait too long to deal... and have to trade from a position of "well we have to get SOMETHING"... I'd call that a fire sale, but not necessarily a traditional salary dump.

Something like the Machado trade comes to mind.

I think a baseball executive would describe it when a team commits to a rebuild and trade all assets in order to gather chips for the future. It includes salary dumps where you get little in return but don’t care because you are clearing contracts. The Orioles just went through it but Elias really only got to handle phase 2. Waiting too long is just poor management imo … not really a fire sale.what the previous leadership (under a bad and meddling owner) group did with Machado was foolish and just bad decision making.