Rosenthal: Os could be buyers and sellers

[byrdz]

Odor actually connected his shot, which most baseball players are horrible at achieving, but not for lack of trying. I’ll laud that after someone trying to break his legs.  

[Hank Scorpio]

6 minutes ago, byrdz said:

Odor actually connected his shot which most baseball players are horrible at achieving. I’ll laud that after someone trying to break his legs.  

Yeah I can't fault someone for reacting to THAT.

[Daddy-O's]

29 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Odor is the guy that assaulted someone on National Television right?

I'd rather the team not emulate that behavior even if a lot of folks here thought his action laudable.

You are correct it is not behavior to emulate, but I just watched it again and it made me smile.  

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Not getting Ks, not missing bats, expensive for longer and much older.  No idea why you would want him.

He’d instantly be our best starter, he has a 3.6 ERA so don’t pretend he sucks because you want Snell and his 6ERA. You wouldn’t take alll that money. As I mentioned you get them to eat half of what’s left  this year and next. To the Orioles you’d control him for 3 years at 6.5, 11.5, and 14. You could probably get them to absorb some part of 2024 it will just cost more in players. I doubt you have to give up more than a C prospect or 2. Snell is owed 13.1 and 16.6 so you’d be looking for Tampa to eat contract, will they do that? In comparison what is the player cost? Also you only have him through next season so you are extending him or have less control. 

[Sports Guy]

51 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

He’d instantly be our best starter, he has a 3.6 ERA so don’t pretend he sucks because you want Snell and his 6ERA. You wouldn’t take alll that money. As I mentioned you get them to eat half of what’s left  this year and next. To the Orioles you’d control him for 3 years at 6.5, 11.5, and 14. You could probably get them to absorb some part of 2024 it will just cost more in players. I doubt you have to give up more than a C prospect or 2. Snell is owed 13.1 and 16.6 so you’d be looking for Tampa to eat contract, will they do that? In comparison what is the player cost? Also you only have him through next season so you are extending him or have less control. 

Snell is owed what is left of 13M, not 13M.

He also has a 4.66 ERA.

[MurphDogg]

27 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

 Snell is owed 13.1 and 16.6 so you’d be looking for Tampa to eat contract, will they do that? 

Snell plays for the Padres.

And his is owed a pro-rated portion of $12.5M for 2022 (about $4.5M by the deadline) and $16M for 2023. The numbers you mention are his luxury tax numbers which spread his signing bonus over the length of his contract.

[Ripken]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not defending Bautista but I'm not about to defend Odor's actions just because it was directed at Bautista.

If I had a child I wouldn't want them acting that way.

 

I would.  My boys play baseball.  That slide was dangerous.  Joey got what he deserved.

[Roll Tide]

2 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

Snell plays for the Padres.

And his is owed a pro-rated portion of $12.5M for 2022 (about $4.5M by the deadline) and $16M for 2023. The numbers you mention are his luxury tax numbers which spread his signing bonus over the length of his contract.

Gotcha …. I firmly believe Bumgarner would be cheaper and his results are better, and won’t cost as much.

[Roll Tide]

BTW, 105.7 said the Orioles are discussing a trade for Luis Castillo. He’s making 7 million this year and his fina

arb year is next year at what 12 million? Seems like he’d be expensive 

 

 

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castilu02.shtml

[Roll Tide]

Interesting article ….somehow I cam see the whole article without a membership 

 

https://theathletic.com/3416811/2022/07/11/baltimore-orioles-trade-deadline-plan/

[Hank Scorpio]

9 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

BTW, 105.7 said the Orioles are discussing a trade for Luis Castillo. He’s making 7 million this year and his fina

arb year is next year at what 12 million? Seems like he’d be expensive 

 

 

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castilu02.shtml

He would definitely be expensive.

[MurphDogg]

30 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Gotcha …. I firmly believe Bumgarner would be cheaper and his results are better, and won’t cost as much.

I'm confused. Bumgarner is signed through 2024 and has a larger salary than Snell.

Both would basically be salary dumps, but Bumgarner makes more money.

I have no idea how much money the Diamondbacks and Padres would eat to trade them, but I don't think there would be any real prospect cost for either, as both make more money that they would earn on the open market.

Bumgarner's results have been better this year, but they weren't better in 2020 or 2021, and he is three years older so I don't know how anyone could say with any confidence that he would be better going forward.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, MurphDogg said:

I'm confused. Bumgarner is signed through 2024 and has a larger salary than Snell.

Both would basically be salary dumps, but Bumgarner makes more money.

I have no idea how much money the Diamondbacks and Padres would eat to trade them, but I don't think there would be any real prospect cost for either and both make more money that they would earn on the open market.

I don't think the Padres would eat any money.  The reason they are considering trading someone is to lower payroll.

[pdiddy]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/why-the-orioles-should-reward-their-fans-and-players-by-becoming-buyers-at-the-mlb-trade-deadline/
 

CBS Sports has entered the chat.

[MurphDogg]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think the Padres would eat any money.  The reason they are considering trading someone is to lower payroll.

I have no idea whether they would need to eat any salary to trade Snell, perhaps they wouldn't, but eating salary lowers the payroll whereas not trading someone because you won't eat salary doesn't lower the payroll.