Jorge Lopez traded to Twins for pitching prospects (edit)

[Baltimorecuse]

I see no reason to second guess Elias on this trade.  

[Hallas]

I am not a big fan of this trade.  Povich might be more projectable with added velocity, but he was a preseason 40 FV guy and he's probably not much more than a 40+ or 45 right now.  We have 1 28 year old roster filler, and 2 lottery tickets.  I feel like we could have gotten a bit more heralded prospect for Lopez.  Maybe get a 45+ or a lower-end 50 FV prospect.

 

The flip side to this is that maybe Elias targeted guys they like and these guys are the ones that he judged to be most likely to help in the future.  That's a fair take, but the only response i have to that is that Elias et al better not be wrong about this.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Hallas

[jamalshw]

15 minutes ago, drdelaware said:

Just chatting with a Twins fan.  Thinks it was a fair deal.  We do have lottery tickets but if one works out it will be fine.  Lopez isn't guaranteed to continue this and the Orioles still have Bautista.  O's got 4 players for a rule 5 guy.  Not bad.

I like Povich as part of this deal. He's a bit more than a lottery ticket. Cano to me seems like someone they think they can get a couple years out of in the pen, I'm not sure there's much upside there given his age, but could be some utility. 

The other two are certainly lottery tickets. I don't love this deal, but I am okay with it. I don't see it as a bad deal and I do love the fact Elias is clearly targeting pitching. 

[Just Regular]

https://twinsdaily.com/forums/topic/58056-jorge-lopez-to-the-twins/page/2/

A Twins fan here observed FCL Twins and FCL Orioles play a lot.   Someone there did the Baseball Trade Values thing, and it came out nearly even.

[ScGO's]

3 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

Can't cast aspersions on Dominican lottery tickets but Nunez is too old for the complex league at 21, Rojas is at least age appropriate (18) and having success in the complex league.

Felix Bautista was in the DSL when he was 22

[Number5]

2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Scouting grades: Fastball 50 | Curveball 45 | Slider 45 | Changeup 55 | Control 50 | Overall 40 

Every now and then I see scouting grades like this and I must confess to being confused by them.  It seems strange to me to have grades between 45 and 55 in every individual category, yet somehow receive a 40 grade overall.  Doesn't seem to add up.

[Roll Tide]

Interesting Povich is 26th in our top 30….so in two trades we added 3 top 30. ( 8, 12, and 26)

 

 

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/orioles/

[Hazmat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDe89ckqPdM

Fast forward to 3:10 in the video to see the Povich highlights.

[Roll Tide]

So I saw they brought up Vespi, does that mean Cano is being sent to AAA?

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Interesting Povich is 26th in our top 30….so in two trades we added 3 top 30. ( 8, 12, and 26)

 

 

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/orioles/

26th and the system isn’t great outside the top 15 or so.

[Moshagge3]

Hypothetical question: if it had been announced this morning that Jorge Lopez was experiencing forearm tightness and was being shut down, would people be saying that that meant the season was over?

[RVAOsFan]

Buster loves the O’s

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

Hypothetical question: if it had been announced this morning that Jorge Lopez was experiencing forearm tightness and was being shut down, would people be saying that that meant the season was over?

No.  The season wouldn't be over but the chances, as small as they were to begin with, would take a significant hit.   The real key is what were the chances with a healthy Jorge Lopez.   Not good.

[drdelaware]

1 minute ago, RVAOsFan said:

Buster loves the O’s

Buster is a douche.  No one knows how this trade will work out.  Just some writer who probably never played the game.

[interloper]

13 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

So I saw they brought up Vespi, does that mean Cano is being sent to AAA?

Yes.