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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, but it wasn’t an injury that should affect his prospect status in July 2024.   

I think that if you have two guys that you view as close and one does well and the other has a fairly serious surgery before playing a game both factors are going to skew your view to some degree.

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8 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I was listening to the MLB Pipeline podcast last week, and someone posed the question “who will be the no. 1 prospect in July 2024?”   Both Jonathan Mayo and Jim Callis predicted it would be Holliday.   It’s interesting that although it seemed like Druw Jones was the favorite pundit choice to be worthy of the 1:1 pick, Holliday seems to have picked up a lot of buzz since the Orioles picked him and he got his feet wet in pro ball.   

I need to go listen.  But I wonder how much of that is related to the O's development system.  Specifically, are Mayo/Callis (and other outside professionals?) seeing and buying into the type of prospect that we target and the development system that gets the most out of the talent?  

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think that if you have two guys that you view as close and one does well and the other has a fairly serious surgery before playing a game both factors are going to skew your view to some degree.

I guess it’s possible.  This seems to be a surgery (posterior labrum tear on non-throwing shoulder) that hasn’t hampered players too much, but you never know.  

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26 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I was listening to the MLB Pipeline podcast last week, and someone posed the question “who will be the no. 1 prospect in July 2024?”   Both Jonathan Mayo and Jim Callis predicted it would be Holliday.   It’s interesting that although it seemed like Druw Jones was the favorite pundit choice to be worthy of the 1:1 pick, Holliday seems to have picked up a lot of buzz since the Orioles picked him and he got his feet wet in pro ball.   

From what I recall the big question around Jones was his ability to hit meanwhile there were no questions on Holliday's hitting ability. For me, that always made him the logical choice between the two. I'm guessing now that people have seen his approach at the plate against better competition they feel more confident in him. Plus, Jones hasn't played so he hasn't had a chance to increase his stock it's just stayed where it was.

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14 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

I need to go listen.  But I wonder how much of that is related to the O's development system.  Specifically, are Mayo/Callis (and other outside professionals?) seeing and buying into the type of prospect that we target and the development system that gets the most out of the talent?  

The podcast is here:  https://www.stitcher.com/show/mlb-pipeline/episode/putting-a-bow-on-the-afl-208556272  The relevant portion begins at about the 73:45 mark, right towards the end of the podcast.  Mayo and Callis actually each named their top 5.   Jones was no. 2 on both lists; Termarr Johnson was no. 5 for Mayo and no. 3 for Callis.  Callis also commented that he thinks Holliday is going to be so good that he may already be in the majors by July 2024.  That would be a nice turn of events!

By the way, this same podcast features a lengthy interview with Heston Kjerstad, starting at the 35:00 mark. 

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12 hours ago, btdart20 said:

@Tony-OH Was there any thought of having Holliday ahead of Grayson?

Holliday could have a higher ceiling, but considering Rodriguez is so close, I never seriously considered putting him ahead. That's not to say that Holliday may not end up the best of all three, just that Henderson and Holliday are so close it would hard take him over them.

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2 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Holliday could have a higher ceiling, but considering Rodriguez is so close, I never seriously considered putting him ahead. That's not to say that Holliday may not end up the best of all three, just that Henderson and Holliday are so close it would hard take him over them.

Wow, that's highest praise. Hard to believe it, but bring it on!

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9 hours ago, EddeeEddee said:

Nice to see Jackson Holliday getting some attention from mlb.com

https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-jackson-holliday-hits-first-two-home-runs-2023?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

FWIW on the embedded video I did hear the announcer opine it was another wind-aided HR, and it was a lofty trajectory.

Regardless, 1-1 looking like 1-1!

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