Colton Cowser 2023

[Mooreisbetter27]

Came into this topic expecting lots of Cowser talk. Lots of Frazier and Tampa talk instead.

[Frobby]

19 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

I'll be honest, I find Frazier to be an average fielder at best. He makes most plays though he seems better going to his left than right. His lack of arm strength has seen them come up a split second short on a few DP chances though his turns are pretty quick. 

I have definitely started using fWAR more as I feel it gives a better true indicator. To me, Frazier is probably a little above replacement level so I could buy 0.3 WAR.

I agree he’s better to his left than to his right.  He’s very good on bloops/flies hit into short RF.  He starts DP’s extremely well.  Agree that his arm on the pivot throws isn’t the strongest.  I’d call him solid average overall.  And he doesn’t do anything stupid out there.  

[RZNJ]

5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I agree he’s better to his left than to his right.  He’s very good on bloops/flies hit into short RF.  He starts DP’s extremely well.  Agree that his arm on the pivot throws isn’t the strongest.  I’d call him solid average overall.  And he doesn’t do anything stupid out there.  

Not stupid, but the ball that went through the hole in the 9th inning yesterday should have been played by Mountcastle or Frazier.  Frazier must have assumed Mountcastle was getting it and let it go under his glove.   I was surprised by that.

[Frobby]

17 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Not stupid, but the ball that went through the hole in the 9th inning yesterday should have been played by Mountcastle or Frazier.  Frazier must have assumed Mountcastle was getting it and let it go under his glove.   I was surprised by that.

I thought Mountcastle cut off Frazier’s line of sight to the ball.  I thought the play was more on RMC than Frazier.  

[Tony-OH]

6 hours ago, Otter said:

Just based on the eye test, Frazier seems to have mediocre range at best.  He does seem very reliable on balls he gets to, but some get through that it felt like he should have reached.  How does Westburg's range compare?

Westburg is not too bad range wise overall, but his release is a little slow and he struggles to throw strongly across his body. He's a big guy so the thought is his average range will diminish so 2nd base long term mihght be a stretch.

Saying that, his bat should certainly play and give him him his value even if the glove is a little below average.

[emmett16]

After two pages off topic, señor Cowser got himself a hit in his first AB tonight.  

[AnythingO's]

3 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Westburg is not too bad range wise overall, but his release is a little slow and he struggles to throw strongly across his body. He's a big guy so the thought is his average range will diminish so 2nd base long term might be a stretch. Saying that, his bat should certainly play and give him him his value even if the glove is a little below average.

So we have Westburg, Kjerstad, Mayo, all serious bats. Using the Fangraphs site (disclaimer: old man with new toy) from Just Regular, we have Speed (base running efficiency) ratings for Westburg (7.0), Cowser (6.8), Kjerstad (6.2) and Mayo (3.8). For reference Norby (4.4) and Prieto (4.3). What does that tell us about the foot speed of W, C, K vs M,N. P if anything? Better at reading the play or reaction time or "baseball smarts" or nothing at all. All the ratings are against their League peers where 5.5 is very good per the Fangraphs metrics. I ask, not for the question as parsed, but to hopefully enable the decision WHO IS YOUR 1B OF THE FUTURE? That pre-supposes that RM doesn't correct his errant swing decision methodology (we'll save JM for another day).Can W and K make it as COF leaving 1B to M?? There seems little doubt C can be COF and maybe CF if we find ourselves in a post-Mullins world. Still sorta Cowser-related in a tangential manner.

Edited May 13, 2023 by AnythingO's
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[Tony-OH]

44 minutes ago, AnythingO's said:

So we have Westburg, Kjerstad, Mayo, all serious bats. Using the Fangraphs site (disclaimer: old man with new toy) from Just Regular, we have Speed (base running efficiency) ratings for Westburg (7.0), Cowser (6.8), Kjerstad (6.2) and Mayo (3.8). For reference Norby (4.4) and Prieto (4.3). What does that tell us about the foot speed of W, C, K vs M,N. P if anything? Better at reading the play or reaction time or "baseball smarts" or nothing at all. All the ratings are against their League peers where 5.5 is very good per the Fangraphs metrics. I ask, not for the question as parsed, but to hopefully enable the decision WHO IS YOUR 1B OF THE FUTURE? That pre-supposes that RM doesn't correct his errant swing decision methodology (we'll save JM for another day).Can W and K make it as COF leaving 1B to M?? There seems little doubt C can be COF and maybe CF if we find ourselves in a post-Mullins world. Still sorta Cowser-related in a tangential manner.

My guess? Kjerstad will be the everyday 1B by mid-2024.

[AnythingO's]

1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:

My guess? Kjerstad will be the everyday 1B by mid-2024.

Interesting, Where does that leave Mayo who doesn't appear fleet of foot per this metric? Secondarily, could Westburg transition to COF basically replacing Kjerstad in RF? If not does he beat out Ortiz for 2B? Trying to tease out the tradeable pieces for ASB pitching acquisitions.

[Just Regular]

He's pretty much just trolling the Batting 9th DH Ryan O'Hearn lineups now.

[emmett16]

Cowser 3/3 with a double and a BB.  Gonna get at least 1 more AB.   
 

Edit: finished 3/4 with 2BB

Edited May 14, 2023 by emmett16

[Sports Guy]

What is he learning at this point?

[emmett16]

48 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

My guess? Kjerstad will be the everyday 1B by mid-2024.

Not in RF? Think he will split time RF/1B/DH? 

[emmett16]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

What is he learning at this point?

Bat flips and HR trot dance moves.  

[Gofannon]

38 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

What is he learning at this point?

Maybe he doesn't know how to act like a sprinkler yet?