Umpire Scorecard Thread

[Morgan423]

7 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Last night Paul Skenes threw a ball he thought was strike 3 and started walking off the mound before he realized it had been called a strike and caught himself.   Plate ump Doug Eddings, who we have discussed in this thread before and is one of the old guard still around, and always has a big strike zone, chewed him out for starting to walk off the mound.   

Now in this particular case Eddings was right on the call, it WAS pretty clearly a ball according to the box in the replay.   But I still don't think an ump needs to yell at a pitcher for a momentary reaction that is borderline reflexive.   It wasn't some attempt to show up Eddings.

The same thing as when batters start to jog off to first in three ball counts, when they think they just took ball four. 

They aren't trying to show up the ump, but you and I both know that they take it like a personal insult.  I'm convinced that there are umps that could have a 3-1 pitch thrown two feet over the batter's head and through the back netting like that White Sox starter did in this series, and if the batter started to jog before the ump could move, they'd ring it up. 

Edited September 4 by Morgan423

[HowAboutThat]

3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Did you miss the part where I said diesel?

The Diesel it came with was 105 HP and that was before it blew up.

We couldn't get our hands on the Old's 350 that would have dropped right in.

You are correct. I missed the diesel part.

I had a friend who owned a big Buick with a four-cylinder four-speed manual. It was the weirdest combination I’ve ever seen, and that thing was so slow that walking was faster.

[ShoelesJoe]

3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Is 100% accuracy and an immunity to framing techniques a requirement for being considered "competent"? 

The guy last night missed on 18% of his strike calls. If that isn’t incompetent then nothing is. The benchmark shouldn’t be 100% accuracy — it should be however accurate the electronic strike zone system can be. MLB should be invested in calls being correct as much as possible. If that means human beings making those calls then so be it. But if an electronic system is more accurate then that should be implemented. 

[ShoelesJoe]

From last night's game Yankees vs Red Sox. #1 impactful call that was clearly strike one instead called ball two, giving Aaron Judge a 2-0 count with the bases loaded instead of a 1-1 count. What's the difference between 1-1 and 2-0 counts? Judge's 2-0 count OPS jumps over 500 points compared to when the count is 1-1. 

Also, 20% of Tumpane's called strikes last night were outside the strike zone, which is ghastly. To put it in perspective the umpire was ten times more likely to call a ball a strike, than to call a strike a ball. And yet in the biggest AB of the game he calls an obvious strike a ball? One of only two missed strikes out of the 161 calls he made all game? Given those numbers I'd love for somebody with a training in statistical analysis to determine what are the odds that the worst, most impactful call of the game, would occur A) in the biggest at bat of the night, and B) go in the Yankees favor. My guess is those odds are so low as to eliminate random human error by the umpire. As crazy as it sounds I do believe there's something going on wrt umpires favoring the Yankees this year. The only question in my mind is whether its a conscious or subconscious choice by the umpires. 

 

 

[ShoelesJoe]

The vast majority of umpire bad calls are on pitches outside the zone being called strikes. This might be the worst I've ever seen for pitches inside the strike zone being called balls. 

 

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

The vast majority of umpire bad calls are on pitches outside the zone being called strikes. This might be the worst I've ever seen for pitches inside the strike zone being called balls. 

 

Wow, I hadn’t realized just how stingy the strike zone was last night.   It’s a testament to the pitches that the score was kept pretty low despite playing in a bandbox with that strike zone.  

[Aristotelian]

1 minute ago, ShoelesJoe said:

The vast majority of umpire bad calls are on pitches outside the zone being called strikes. This might be the worst I've ever seen for pitches inside the strike zone being called balls. 

 

He was really terrible and pretty consistent in favor of NYY. Kremer did an amazing job bouncing back from the bad calls, battling the umpire as well as the Yankees hitters. 

[Mooreisbetter27]

22 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Wow, I hadn’t realized just how stingy the strike zone was last night.   It’s a testament to the pitches that the score was kept pretty low despite playing in a bandbox with that strike zone.  

I don't always listen to the games but I had to keep turning off the mute to see the guys reactions and Palmer and Big Ben were going in pretty hard on the umpiring.  

[Just Regular]

With 5 days left in the regular season, the teams report has NYY at a +31 and BAL at a -5 as the number of games the AL East is to be decided by gets revealed.

https://umpscorecards.com/teams/

Christopher Russo explains to me that MLB "needs" a Judge-Ohtani series somewhat frequently.

[justD]

1 hour ago, Just Regular said:

With 5 days left in the regular season, the teams report has NYY at a +31 and BAL at a -5 as the number of games the AL East is to be decided by gets revealed.

https://umpscorecards.com/teams/

Christopher Russo explains to me that MLB "needs" a Judge-Ohtani series somewhat frequently.

Just to clarify, +31 and -5  are the number of runs 'given' or 'taken away' for the overall season as a result of missed calls?

If so, the numbers seem pretty significant, especially for NYY and CLE

[Frobby]

30 minutes ago, justD said:

Just to clarify, +31 and -5  are the number of runs 'given' or 'taken away' for the overall season as a result of missed calls?

If so, the numbers seem pretty significant, especially for NYY and CLE

Yep, that's what they mean.   Umpire subconscious bias, or catcher framing skills?   You decide.

[ShoelesJoe]

15 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yep, that's what they mean.   Umpire subconscious bias, or catcher framing skills?   You decide.

I don't think there's anything subconscious about it. Umpires know that if they make a bad call against the Yankees Boone will go balrog, and it'll be the top story on every sports cast and social media site for the next 48 hours. So umps just give them most of the close calls to avoid the hassle. 

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

I don't think there's anything subconscious about it. Umpires know that if they make a bad call against the Yankees Boone will go balrog, and it'll be the top story on every sports cast and social media site for the next 48 hours. So umps just give them most of the close calls to avoid the hassle. 

I don’t believe that.  

[LookitsPuck]

30 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yep, that's what they mean.   Umpire subconscious bias, or catcher framing skills?   You decide.

Austin Wells and Jose Trevino are the #3 and #4 best pitch framers in all of baseball. The two of them have saved 19 runs (Catcher Framing Runs).

Adley? #48

McCann? #50

Adley and McCann are worth -9 runs. That's a 28 run swing. If you believe 10 runs = 1 win, that's basically a 3 win difference between the teams just on framing alone.

That explains it all to me. 

Edited 2 hours ago by LookitsPuck

[ShoelesJoe]

1 minute ago, LookitsPuck said:

Austin Wells and Jose Trevino are the #3 and #4 best pitch framers in all of baseball.

Adley? #48

McCann? #50

That explains it all to me. 

Amazing how as soon as a catcher joins the Yankees he becomes great at framing pitches, even if he was never good at it in the past. Just maybe catchers are seen as good framers when they put on pinstripes because all of a sudden the home plate umpires are bending over backwards to give their team every close call.