Orioles acquire catcher, DFA Krehbiel

[LA2]

15 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

There’s some thunder in that bat. Oppo power. 

15 homers and 16 doubles in 346 ABs in 2021! Oddly has only 4 homers in 378 ABs scattered over 5 other seasons. Might have something to do with the fact that he started as a DH more often than as a C during '21: 56 vs. 32 starts. So Torrens is possibly a very good pinchhitting option: 11 for 35 with 2 homers and just one walk during his career.

[eddie83]

They are juggling the 26th man. That’s all it is. They are also adding players with somewhat of a contract like O’Hearn, Bemboom and now Torrens. 

[sportsfan8703]

Just now, LA2 said:

15 homers and 16 doubles in 346 ABs in 2021! Oddly has only 4 homers in 378 ABs scattered over 5 other seasons. Might have something to do with the fact that he started as a DH more often than as a C during '21: 56 vs. 32 starts. So Torrens is possibly a very good pinchhitting option: 11 for 35 with 2 homers and just one walk during his career.

I think he’s just a rental RH bat for Friday - Monday. 
 

He was a rule 5 pick. Plus he’s a catcher. So he was probably in the MLB 2-3 years before he should’ve been. For a rental bat, this dude has some tools. Power. Good arm. 

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Pickles said:

You remember when Danny Columbe was "no good" according to you?

Yep..because that’s what his career said and at age 33, you don’t expect a turnaround like this, even if relievers are volatile.  He was coming off a season where his K rate and Bb rate were identical. You think that’s good?

I know you know like to point these things out as if they matter but essentially you are saying we should acquire anyone and maybe things will turn around. 
 

If you think that’s a good idea, be my guest.  Personally, I would rather rely on players with good track records and good upside as opposed to a hopes and prayers and relying on magical fairy dust. 
 

Im not going to apologize for that. But hey you keep relying on things that are unlikely to occur. 

[eddie83]

Cheap payroll and trying to steal wins at the margins by juggling the 26th man. Taking on small contacts to have a 43 man roster as opposed to a 40 man roster. 

[maybenxtyr]

5 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Who? You aren’t putting Westburg on the 40 man so he can play 4 games. You can’t call Ortiz up they just sent him down. 

You shouldn't be managing your roster 3 or 4 games at a time. There's way too much talent in this organization for that. 

 

There's nothing wrong with waiver claims for depth...but they're exactly that, depth for an emergency injury. I understand that they've made some decent waiver claims, but Ortiz could have stayed up and they could have still brought Stowers up. 

[Sports Guy]

4 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

They are juggling the 26th man. That’s all it is. They are also adding players with somewhat of a contract like O’Hearn, Bemboom and now Torrens. 

The thing is, do you really need to “juggle” anything?  Can’t you just have a team with your best players, use this versatility you (not you you) constantly push on everyone and make that your advantage?

We can just rotate so many guys in and out of the lineup until players really establish themselves and then, you can start to have more solidified lineups and rotational end of bench pieces that you can move in and out depending on matchups.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Sports Guy

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yep..because that’s what his career said and at age 33, you don’t expect a turnaround like this, even if relievers are volatile.  He was coming off a season where his K rate and Bb rate were identical. You think that’s good?

I know you know like to point these things out as if they matter but essentially you are saying we should acquire anyone and maybe things will turn around. 
 

If you think that’s a good idea, be my guest.  Personally, I would rather rely on players with good track records and good upside as opposed to a hopes and prayers and relying on magical fairy dust. 
 

Im not going to apologize for that. But hey you keep relying on things that are unlikely to occur. 

Danny Coulombe has 82 walks and 192 strikeouts in 203 career innings.   So you based your opinion on the 9 walks and 9 strikeouts in 12 IP in 2022?    Ok.

[Pickles]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Yep..because that’s what his career said and at age 33, you don’t expect a turnaround like this, even if relievers are volatile.  He was coming off a season where his K rate and Bb rate were identical. You think that’s good?

I know you know like to point these things out as if they matter but essentially you are saying we should acquire anyone and maybe things will turn around. 
 

If you think that’s a good idea, be my guest.  Personally, I would rather rely on players with good track records and good upside as opposed to a hopes and prayers and relying on magical fairy dust. 
 

Im not going to apologize for that. But hey you keep relying on things that are unlikely to occur. 

I'm saying your takes on who is "good" and who is "not" is consistently wrong.  Year after year.  You disparage just about any player acquired, usually in the most hyperbolic terms possible, in order to take shots at the FO, because of course, you could be doing it better.

This is the 26th spot on the roster.  By your terms, nobody is any "good" if they're the 26th man on the roster.

This is specifically a matchup move, that is going to be short-term, made out of the neccessity of keeping Adley's bat in the lineup as much as possible.

It's entirely logical and reasonable.

[Pickles]

Just now, RZNJ said:

Danny Coulombe has 82 walks and 192 strikeouts in 203 career innings.   So you based your opinion on the 9 walks and 9 strikeouts in 12 IP in 2022?    Ok.

Anything to disparage him.  He had a 1.45 ERA last year or something in a year SG called him "terrible" or one of his other limited adjectives.

[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yep..because that’s what his career said and at age 33, you don’t expect a turnaround like this, even if relievers are volatile.  He was coming off a season where his K rate and Bb rate were identical. You think that’s good?

I know you know like to point these things out as if they matter but essentially you are saying we should acquire anyone and maybe things will turn around. 
 

If you think that’s a good idea, be my guest.  Personally, I would rather rely on players with good track records and good upside as opposed to a hopes and prayers and relying on magical fairy dust. 
 

Im not going to apologize for that. But hey you keep relying on things that are unlikely to occur. 

Welp, track records cost money buddy. Haha. 

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Pickles said:

I'm saying your takes on who is "good" and who is "not" is consistently wrong.  Year after year.  You disparage just about any player acquired, usually in the most hyperbolic terms possible, in order to take shots at the FO, because of course, you could be doing it better.

This is the 26th spot on the roster.  By your terms, nobody is any "good" if they're the 26th man on the roster.

This is specifically a matchup move, that is going to be short-term, made out of the neccessity of keeping Adley's bat in the lineup as much as possible.

It's entirely logical and reasonable.

It’s just presenting of facts.

Torrens just turned 27. He has 799 career ML plate appearances. His career OPS is 642. His career WAR is -1.6.

Do you think that’s a good player?

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Welp, track records cost money buddy. Haha. 

Keep reading…

[btdart20]

5 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

They are juggling the 26th man. That’s all it is. They are also adding players with somewhat of a contract like O’Hearn, Bemboom and now Torrens. 

Agreed.  In theory, this completes the emergency shuttle:  O'Hearn is the LHH, Torrens the RHH, and Bemboom the defensive plan C C.

[Aristotelian]

5 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

You shouldn't be managing your roster 3 or 4 games at a time. There's way too much talent in this organization for that. 

 

There's nothing wrong with waiver claims for depth...but they're exactly that, depth for an emergency injury. I understand that they've made some decent waiver claims, but Ortiz could have stayed up and they could have still brought Stowers up. 

Why not both/and? I don't see what this costs us other than Krehbiel. We get another C/bat for three games. If he makes it through waivers we get additional depth and flexibility to pull the same thing later. If someone else grabs him when we DFA then they get the salary. The only downside here is losing Krehbiel.

You could call up Handley but then what do you do with him when we need that roster spot? Basically we are paying $1M to avoid having to possibly DFA Handley.