Rule 5 Draft Targets

[Sports Guy]

10 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Why not try and snag an arm in the rule 5?  Not glamorous enough?  What relievers are drafted/signed and turned to relievers before AA/AAA ball?  Ben Joyce?  So everyone is a failed SP. Either because of injury or performance. So why not take a flier on an arm when upper level pitching depth is a weakness of our org?

We might never guess the player, but I think we can see that RH P is a need for us at the top of the system. The Yankees have a nasty bullpen. If they’ve been delaying converting a SP to a reliever then we should be all over that. That’s not being poor. That’s being smart, but we are poor. 

No

[Can_of_corn]

25 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Why not try and snag an arm in the rule 5?  Not glamorous enough?  What relievers are drafted/signed and turned to relievers before AA/AAA ball?  Ben Joyce?  So everyone is a failed SP. Either because of injury or performance. So why not take a flier on an arm when upper level pitching depth is a weakness of our org?

We might never guess the player, but I think we can see that RH P is a need for us at the top of the system. The Yankees have a nasty bullpen. If they’ve been delaying converting a SP to a reliever then we should be all over that. That’s not being poor. That’s being smart, but we are poor. 

Not poor, cheap.

I don't care for the lack of flexibility,

[Tony-OH]

The Orioles took Andrew Politi last year when they were expected to compete, so I could see them taking a flier on a potential bullpen arm if they're intrigued enough by them.

I just hope if they do they come with more upside than a Politi-type. I never understood that selection since there really wasn't a ton of upside and the stuff was just "bleh". 

I don't ever research these guy prior to the draft, especially now that the Orioles will not be picking until late in the first round. They did of course find Tyler Wells in the second round so sometimes there's a diamond in the rough, but that was also after COVID cost teams a chance to look at minor league players for a year and why the Twins may have thought Wells would not be selected or was too raw to stick.

[Frobby]

Oh, they’ll select someone.  I just don’t think they’ll keep him.  

[interloper]

6 hours ago, Frobby said:

Oh, they’ll select someone.  I just don’t think they’ll keep him.  

100% they will select someone. I was having trouble remembering who our selection was last year - Andrew Politi. 

He ended up toiling in AAA Worcester with a 4.45 in 58 innings as a reliever. He did not show the same low WHIP/high K numbers that he did in his AA-AAA stint the previous year, which is what got him selected by us, one would assume. 

[ScGO's]

12 hours ago, Frobby said:

Oh, they’ll select someone.  I just don’t think they’ll keep him.  

This is what I think. They might pick some guys just to evaluate them for a few weeks, send them back and then trade them Ramon Urias, etc for them later

[RZNJ]

Ok.  This is the guy.  Tobias Myers.  We drafted him in the 6th round and traded him to TB.   He struck out 146 in 117 IP in 2021 between AA and AAA but only had a 3.90 ERA due to 28 homers.  The Rays then trade him to the Guardians for Junior Caminero (ouch!).

2022 is a complete lost season. 7.82 ERA. 76 IP, 51 BB, 54 K.  He must have been hurt.

2023 he’s with Milwaukee now and back in AA. Poor overall numbers but 168 K in 137 IP.   He goes up to AAA at the end of the season.  2 appearances.  3 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 7 K.  0 runs.  
 

Here’s a guy who has almost exclusively been a starter in the minors.  He’s always K’d a lot of batters.   Worth a look as a bullpen piece. Here’s a scouting report from BA a couple of years ago.

Caminero.

Scouting Report: Myers in 2021 saw his stuff tick up, as his fastball sat around 93-95 mph with some of the biggest vertical movement in the minor leagues. His best secondary offering is a mid-80s breaking ball that he calls a cutter. He also mixes in an above-average changeup and a big curveball. His stuff all plays up thanks to his plus control. Myers is a little undersized at 6 feet, 193 pounds, but his combination of stuff and control makes for an intriguing package. He has a starter profile, though his stuff would also play in relief.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=myers-000tob

 

[Jagwar]

I'm not really interested in the Rule 5 draft any longer. Except now I'm worried about who the O's might lose in a given year instead of who they might gain. 

[RZNJ]

With Brad Ciolek in Washington, perhaps we see the nationals take a flier on Hudson Haskin and/or a pitcher.   

[RZNJ]

If you’re a team like Oakland wouldn’t you at least pick this guy and take a shot?

 

Baseball America

Asa Lacy, LHP, Royals

This would take a rebuilding team willing to take a risk. Lacy did not pitch in an official game in 2023, and his last month of the 2022 season saw him walk 11 in just 4.2 innings while posting a 23.14 ERA. He’s battled back and shoulder issues, and it would be hard to believe he’s ready to help an MLB team. But with all of that said, Lacy was the fourth pick in the 2020 draft. And while he didn’t pitch in an official game this year, he looked good in a brief instructional league appearance.

[oriole]

On 12/2/2023 at 8:28 PM, RZNJ said:

With Brad Ciolek in Washington, perhaps we see the nationals take a flier on Hudson Haskin and/or a pitcher.   

I feel like Haskin is pretty much gone but I don’t really think he’ll be missed either. 

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, oriole said:

I feel like Haskin is pretty much gone but I don’t really think he’ll be missed either. 

Agree on both counts.

[sportsfan8703]

9 minutes ago, oriole said:

I feel like Haskin is pretty much gone but I don’t really think he’ll be missed either. 

I don't think he'll be gone, but it's a possibility.  It would be nice to have a Mckenna up/down replacement for three option years.  Mckenna is out of options this year.  Mullins and Bradfield are both LH.  Elias and Co. decided that was a luxury to add to the 40 man.  If he doesn't get selected this year, then he would be good depth going forward unless he has another tough year.  

[sportsfan8703]

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