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Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

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1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Elias has known about the Bradish injury.  Look at our recent moves,

- Negotiate to get a team option for O'Hearn.

- Make waiver claim trade for IFs Nevin, Maton, and Soto.

Looks to me like Elias sought IF depth, and DH options.  The two positions where Kjerstad, and Norby, would provide depth at for this year.  

Or he's just settling his remaining arbitration case and filling out his 40-man roster where it was potentially thin (RH 1B, LH INF, RH OF).

It's just not much more complicated than that.

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Doctor here.  The medical literature distinguishes between partial and complete tears, and whether the tear is proximal or distal.  We don't know the extent of the injury.  There is medical literature

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4 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Team - "Gunnar nursing syrained oblique, expected to miss 2-3 weeks". Brandon Hyde said he is not concerned at all about Henderson's health.

You - "Gunnar will miss Opening Day, six weeks from today".

Thats right.  The O’s have a history of being transparent with their Injuries 👍.  With an oblique injury I wouldn’t expect him to be at 100% and ready to plan full time by opening day.  I’d like to be wrong.  But with an oblique you can’t do anything.  You have an arm injury, you can train your lower half. Oblique/core injuries effects everything.  You have to shut down until it is 100% healed, then start from scratch. 

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2 hours ago, RVAOsFan said:

I think this is a bit of an over reaction.  Is there a chance this happens? Yes.  However, the GM stated this morning he expects him back this season.  I think we can wait and see how the throwing program goes over the next couple weeks before we call the season a wrap. 

In this case I don't think he's overreacting. A sprained UCL is about a big of red flag as you can off for a pitcher and odds are overwhelming that this will lead to surgery. It usually does. As for Elias quote, I wouldn't read too much into his optimism. It's nothing more than a GM trying to put a somewhat positive spin on the situation. 

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3 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

In this case I don't think he's overreacting. A sprained UCL is about a big of red flag as you can off for a pitcher and odds are overwhelming that this will lead to surgery. It usually does. As for Elias quote, I wouldn't read too much into his optimism. It's nothing more than a GM trying to put a somewhat positive spin on the situation. 

What's the incentive to put a positive spin on it? He's savvy enough to know it'd be better to lower/manage expectations now if the odds of the treatment weren't reasonably high IMO. 

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28 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

This whole situation sucks, probably the best rotation in my lifetime is destroyed before the first spring training game.

What I don't understand is the combination of Elias knowing about this injury and the Burnes trade.  Why would we trade prospects for a pitcher with one year of control if we knew we were going to be without Bradish in addition to Bautista.  Wouldn't a trade for a controllable Marlins pitcher make a lot more sense?

Maybe he actually believes Bradish will be back this year? I know some people on here absolutely refuse to take anything Elias says at face value, but it is conceivable that he's not flat out lying...

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I think my least favorite part about this is it puts so much pressure on Grayson Rodriguez as a defacto #2 to Corbin freakin' Burnes on a team trying to get to the World Series. 

And then what are you getting out of Dean Kremer night to night? 

And you're backing all this up with a bullpen that is without Wells? With an aging closer who may or may not be effective?

Man... I dunno. These are some serious pitching holes. I have to believe Elias is going to try and land a starter and a reliever somehow. 

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44 minutes ago, G54377 said:

Can we sign Bauer or is he persona non grada. 

Trevor Bauer did nothing wrong.  He had relations with a female who tried to extort him.  Bauer fought and paid heavily to prove his innocence.  Bauer has been blackballed by MLB for possibly his political beliefs.  If the Orioles sign him we win AL East hands down.  And would be the favorites for the World Series if we are able to get a real closer.  Bauer said on the PBD broadcast he is willing to sign an incentive based contract where performance is rewarded.  It's a no lose situation.

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Just now, ThisIsBirdland said:

What's the incentive to put a positive spin on it? He's savvy enough to know it'd be better to lower/manage expectations now if the odds of the treatment weren't reasonably high IMO. 

When has Elias ever been straight / completely honest with the press? 99% of his pressers are a bunch of words strung together with no substance. That's all this was. 

Non-surgical treatment rarely works for a sprained/torn UCL. It's not a question of if he's going to need surgery it's a question of when. 

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Just now, interloper said:

Ok, so you and Corn have both named the same guy haha. We have a data set of... one guy. 

I acknowledge that it's possible, of course. But a tear is a tear and it's permanent damage. 

I'd say the odds of Bradish avoiding surgery are slightly better than one of us winning the lottery. It sucks, but that's just the reality of the situation and I'm sure Elias is operating under that assumption. 

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1 minute ago, interloper said:

Ok, so you and Corn have both named the same guy haha. We have a data set of... one guy. 

I acknowledge that it's possible, of course. But a tear is a tear and it's permanent damage. 

Thank you, Dr. Loper.

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