Spring Training Lineups

[Frobby]

8 hours ago, now said:

 

BTW, the team is now 20-5 in Grapefruit action. That must be best ever for Oriole spring training records, no? Or maybe any team?

Another poster posted this from Reddit:

“I now have conclusive proof that the team with the best spring training record record of all time was the 1990 San Diego Padres with a .857 winning percentage (12-2). The only other teams to get above the .800 mark were the 1997 Florida Marlins 26-5 (.839) and the 2016 Washington Nationals 19-4 (.826). The title of most wins is a tie between the 1997 Marlins and the 2009 Dodgers 26-8 (.765).”

The 1990 Padres went 75-87.   The 1997 Marlins went 92-70, made the playoffs as a Wild Card and won the World Series.  The 2016 Nationals went 95-67 and won the NL East, but lost in the NLDS.   The 2009 Dodgers went 95-67 and won the NL West, but lost in the NLCS.

[now]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Another poster posted this from Reddit:

“I now have conclusive proof that the team with the best spring training record record of all time was the 1990 San Diego Padres with a .857 winning percentage (12-2). The only other teams to get above the .800 mark were the 1997 Florida Marlins 26-5 (.839) and the 2016 Washington Nationals 19-4 (.826). The title of most wins is a tie between the 1997 Marlins and the 2009 Dodgers 26-8 (.765).”

The 1990 Padres went 75-87.   The 1997 Marlins went 92-70, made the playoffs as a Wild Card and won the World Series.  The 2016 Nationals went 95-67 and won the NL East, but lost in the NLDS.   The 2009 Dodgers went 95-67 and won the NL West, but lost in the NLCS.

Thanks! I'll take those comps as a good baseline (excluding the smaller sample size of the Padres).

[nevadaO]

Batters BAL	B	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OPS
HendersonSS	L	1	4	0	.464	1.197
SantanderRF	S	4	9	0	.171	.672
Mountcastle1B	R	0	7	0	.233	.533
Westburg3B	R	2	6	1	.268	.839
CowserCF	L	5	11	1	.342	1.231
NevinLF	R	2	7	0	.347	.895
Wong, Ko2B	L	0	3	1	.208	.654
McKennaDH	R	1	2	1	.129	.501
Pérez, MC	L	1	7	0	.250	.825

[interloper]

I have to say it is worrying how much Wong is getting starts at 2B this late in camp. 

[maybenxtyr]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

I have to say it is worrying how much Wong is getting starts at 2B this late in camp. 

I'm more worried about how much Nevin is playing. It really seems like they're trying to find a way to have him in Baltimore this season.

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

I have to say it is worrying how much Wong is getting starts at 2B this late in camp. 

Just as worrisome, Holliday not starting today after sitting yesterday and again not getting the chance to get reps at 2B with Henderson at SS.

[interloper]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

Just as worrisome, Holliday not starting today after sitting yesterday and again not getting the chance to get reps at 2B with Henderson at SS.

On the other hand, it IS a road game, so maybe that indicates Holliday has the inside track as the starter. Or maybe he's just sore or caught Hays' stomach bug. But yeah, I share the concern. 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

Just as worrisome, Holliday not starting today after sitting yesterday and again not getting the chance to get reps at 2B with Henderson at SS.

Although it's very hard to judge by the Orioles spring training lineups due to them moving guys around so much, I do agree that it seems strange for Holliday not to be working with Henderson this late in camp. 

[interloper]

1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:

Although it's very hard to judge by the Orioles spring training lineups due to them moving guys around so much, I do agree that it seems strange for Holliday not to be working with Henderson this late in camp. 

It's a little hard to not feel like this is by design so they can say "he needs to go down and work on 2B", but that's probably being a bit cynical. 

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

On the other hand, it IS a road game, so maybe that indicates Holliday has the inside track as the starter. Or maybe he's just sore or caught Hays' stomach bug. But yeah, I share the concern. 

I left him off my 26 man roster guess.  I'm officially in the "I'll believe Holliday is on the team when I see it".    Maybe I'll like this possible decision 6 years from now.

[RZNJ]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Although it's very hard to judge by the Orioles spring training lineups due to them moving guys around so much, I do agree that it seems strange for Holliday not to be working with Henderson this late in camp. 

The last week of camp and Wong gets two consecutive starts while Holliday sits?   Strange but true.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

The last week of camp and Wong gets two consecutive starts while Holliday sits?   Strange but true.

Showcasing to try to get something for him?   They’ve also played Nevin a ton in the last several days.  

PS - I don’t think Wong started yesterday.  Mateo started at 2B.
 

Edited March 21 by Frobby

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

It's a little hard to not feel like this is by design so they can say "he needs to go down and work on 2B", but that's probably being a bit cynical. 

They could potentially say he needs to work on hitting left-handers too.

[Tony-OH]

Just now, Frobby said:

Showcasing to try to get something for him?   They’ve also played Nevin a ton in the last several days.  

I doubt anyone is giving up anything of value for either of these guys. the other thing is that the Orioles may already know what their 26-man roster is going to be and are keeping guys fresh for the season.

[dzorange]

4 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

I doubt anyone is giving up anything of value for either of these guys. the other thing is that the Orioles may already know what their 26-man roster is going to be and are keeping guys fresh for the season.

And just giving some vets an opportunity to play a bit out of respect.