Os claim Levi Stoudt

[HowAboutThat]

39 minutes ago, Malike said:

Clay Holmes got walked off by the worst part of the KC batting order, maybe he's available as he's probably not good enough for the NYY.

Maybe they’ll take Mullins and Hays for him?

We could also dangle Urias!

[Radagast]

I see that Stoudt made his professional debut in the 2022 season after recovering from TJ surgery.  In that short span of time he was pitching in the majors the following year - after a trade, being waived, and back to Seattle.  I know college pitchers move quickly, and he obviously earned to some extent his MLB debut and more very quickly, but that's a heck of quick road to travel after TJ.  I think this could be quite a nice acquisition.  He'll be in the hands of a good pitching development program (Kremer, Wells, Rodriguez, Bradish, Bautista) and I hope he'll have an option or 2.   

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Radagast said:

I see that Stoudt made his professional debut in the 2022 season after recovering from TJ surgery.  In that short span of time he was pitching in the majors the following year - after a trade, being waived, and back to Seattle.  I know college pitchers move quickly, and he obviously earned to some extent his MLB debut and more very quickly, but that's a heck of quick road to travel after TJ.  I think this could be quite a nice acquisition.  He'll be in the hands of a good pitching development program (Kremer, Wells, Rodriguez, Bradish, Bautista) and I hope he'll have an option or 2.   

If you got a live arm and two pitches you are pretty much ready for bullpen duty.

They'd probably do it to HS kids if the value of a starter wasn't so much higher.

[bpilktree]

3 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

I know we got Webb and Perez off waiver claims, but as Perez demonstrated today, at some point we have to make better acquisitions than waiver claims to fix this bullpen.

What are we fixing?  The bullpen isn’t broken it is very solid and has been most the year minus about a 10 game stretch.  Could we use another back end guy sure but that is more reinforcements than fixing something.  

The Orioles bullpen.  
Webb  1.05 whip 1.72 ERA

Suarez 1.05 whip 1.61 ERA

Cano 1.22 whip 2.37 ERA

Coulombe .62 whip 2.42 ERA

Kimbrell .95 whip 2.59 ERA

Tate 1.23 whip 2.45 ERA

Perez 1.13 whip 3.86 ERA

Aiken 1.19 whip 4.13 ERA.  
 

They will add another high leverage guy to replace Aiken most likely and depending on Coulombe injury maybe another lefty but for everyone expecting a huge turnover you are gonna be disappointed because the guys we have are just as good as the guys who will be available.  

 

[bpilktree]

3 hours ago, Malike said:

Clay Holmes got walked off by the worst part of the KC batting order, maybe he's available as he's probably not good enough for the NYY.

4th. Blown save  that is more than Kimbrel and half the people here want to get rid of him I can’t imagine if Holmes was our closer.  Honestly if you look at the back ends performance ours is just as good as theirs but way people talk there’s is so great and ours is terrible.  

[gretzkyscores]

Can we trade this guy back to Seattle for Mike Baumann now?

(8 good appearances for Baumann in Seattle already) ...

 

[Malike]

42 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

What are we fixing?  The bullpen isn’t broken it is very solid and has been most the year minus about a 10 game stretch.  Could we use another back end guy sure but that is more reinforcements than fixing something.  

The Orioles bullpen.  
Webb  1.05 whip 1.72 ERA

Suarez 1.05 whip 1.61 ERA

Cano 1.22 whip 2.37 ERA

Coulombe .62 whip 2.42 ERA

Kimbrell .95 whip 2.59 ERA

Tate 1.23 whip 2.45 ERA

Perez 1.13 whip 3.86 ERA

Aiken 1.19 whip 4.13 ERA.  
 

They will add another high leverage guy to replace Aiken most likely and depending on Coulombe injury maybe another lefty but for everyone expecting a huge turnover you are gonna be disappointed because the guys we have are just as good as the guys who will be available.  

 

The team would really benefit from a guy with a high K rate at the back of the pen, that's one thing for sure that needs fixing. Kimbrel is the only one we have who is a real strikeout pitcher but we need another without a doubt.

[Malike]

20 minutes ago, gretzkyscores said:

Can we trade this guy back to Seattle for Mike Baumann now?

(8 good appearances for Baumann in Seattle already) ...

 

Smoke and mirrors.

[RZNJ]

42 minutes ago, gretzkyscores said:

Can we trade this guy back to Seattle for Mike Baumann now?

(8 good appearances for Baumann in Seattle already) ...

 

Counting the blown save last night.  1-0 lead.  9th inning.   Seattle brings Mikey in to close. HR to Roberts.  Warning track to Vaughn.   Two 9th inning save situations in his last three games.   Two home runs.  Two blown saves.

[bpilktree]

1 hour ago, Malike said:

The team would really benefit from a guy with a high K rate at the back of the pen, that's one thing for sure that needs fixing. Kimbrel is the only one we have who is a real strikeout pitcher but we need another without a doubt.

Do they really though.   The talk around here is how the Yanks have such a great pen and we have a a pen that needs an overhaul to major fixing.  We need more strikeout guys like they have and power arms.   However if you look at the numbers they are very similar looking at the 6 high leverage guys.  Webb, Cano, Coulumbe, Perez, Tate and Kimbrel vs the Yanks Weaver, Hamilton, Marciano, Ferguson, Tonkin, and Holmes.  They have pitched about the same number of innings 154 us vs 157 them.  Our Era 2.47 there’s 2.69.  Strikeouts 159 them 153 us or .05 more per 9 innings. Walks is us 44 and them 52.  If you look at individual numbers it shows similarities most pitchers are in the high 8’s to 9 in k’s/9.  We do have Kimbrel at 12.6 but Tate just at 6.1 which evens it out to about that 9.  
 

Do I think we need to strengthen the bullpen yes for sure an upgrade from Akin and Baker to another high leverage guy should happen but just do believe the thought that we need to overhaul and fix it completely.  The 6 i listed are not going anywhere unless they fall off drastically.  If Kremer comes back you probably see Suarez move back to another spot in pen taking Bakers spot.  That leaves 1 spot you try to upgrade that is what we probably do but people thinking we need an overhaul just have blinders on and not looking at data.  I see suggestions like Kopech because he strikes guys out or Scott but neither of those guys are actual upgrades.  

[Malike]

14 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

Do they really though.   The talk around here is how the Yanks have such a great pen and we have a a pen that needs an overhaul to major fixing.  We need more strikeout guys like they have and power arms.   However if you look at the numbers they are very similar looking at the 6 high leverage guys.  Webb, Cano, Coulumbe, Perez, Tate and Kimbrel vs the Yanks Weaver, Hamilton, Marciano, Ferguson, Tonkin, and Holmes.  They have pitched about the same number of innings 154 us vs 157 them.  Our Era 2.47 there’s 2.69.  Strikeouts 159 them 153 us or .05 more per 9 innings. Walks is us 44 and them 52.  If you look at individual numbers it shows similarities most pitchers are in the high 8’s to 9 in k’s/9.  We do have Kimbrel at 12.6 but Tate just at 6.1 which evens it out to about that 9.  
 

Do I think we need to strengthen the bullpen yes for sure an upgrade from Akin and Baker to another high leverage guy should happen but just do believe the thought that we need to overhaul and fix it completely.  The 6 i listed are not going anywhere unless they fall off drastically.  If Kremer comes back you probably see Suarez move back to another spot in pen taking Bakers spot.  That leaves 1 spot you try to upgrade that is what we probably do but people thinking we need an overhaul just have blinders on and not looking at data.  I see suggestions like Kopech because he strikes guys out or Scott but neither of those guys are actual upgrades.  

Yes, we definitely need someone who can strike people out. The bullpen is full of guys with FIP's that are a run or more than their current ERAs, there will be a correction on some of them. Cano has a 2.37 ERA and a 4.27 FIP, he is not a late-inning arm despite the "success" he's had. They give up loud contact and while you can skate in a lot of games during the regular season, you need guys in the pen who can get outs without players putting the ball in play. Webb 1.76 (3.18), Tate 2.45 (3.74) and on and on. When Akin is your 3rd best strikeout pitcher and actually pitching to a FIP lower than Cano and Tate, etc, yeah, you probably should find a 10K/9 guy if you really intend to make a push in the playoffs.

Edited June 14 by Malike

[Billy F-Face3]

8 hours ago, bpilktree said:

What are we fixing?  The bullpen isn’t broken it is very solid and has been most the year minus about a 10 game stretch.  Could we use another back end guy sure but that is more reinforcements than fixing something.  

The Orioles bullpen.  
Webb  1.05 whip 1.72 ERA

Suarez 1.05 whip 1.61 ERA

Cano 1.22 whip 2.37 ERA

Coulombe .62 whip 2.42 ERA

Kimbrell .95 whip 2.59 ERA

Tate 1.23 whip 2.45 ERA

Perez 1.13 whip 3.86 ERA

Aiken 1.19 whip 4.13 ERA.  
 

They will add another high leverage guy to replace Aiken most likely and depending on Coulombe injury maybe another lefty but for everyone expecting a huge turnover you are gonna be disappointed because the guys we have are just as good as the guys who will be available.  

 

If you feel comfortable putting Aiken and Baker (or even Tate) in during an elimination series, that's your prerogative. But I do not. Too inconsistent, which is the same reason why Mike Baumann pitched himself off the active roster. when spot was needed for returning starters off the IL. Currently Coulombe is on IL so we can't even count on one of our best. Cano has regressed from last season. We've also witnessed last season how Webb broke down from over use and was ineffective in the playoff series against Texas. Perez goes in streaks of either really good or concernedly bad (he loses his command).

Akin's problem is he leaves the ball over the heart of the plate and he doesn't have good enough stuff to get away with it. They're meatballs. We might get some good times from Baker now that he's up, but I would only expect a month or 2 at best from him before he returns to old habits. And Suarez is a starter who wants to be a starter. Who knows if he will go back to the bullpen? He'll have to go deeper into games if he wants to stay in the rotation, otherwise, I think he should be in the bullpen. But that's not what he is right now in this moment. He's a starter with a ERA in the 1s.

[bpilktree]

10 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

If you feel comfortable putting Aiken and Baker (or even Tate) in during an elimination series, that's your prerogative. But I do not. Too inconsistent, which is the same reason why Mike Baumann pitched himself off the active roster. when spot was needed for returning starters off the IL. Currently Coulombe is on IL so we can't even count on one of our best. Cano has regressed from last season. We've also witnessed last season how Webb broke down from over use and was ineffective in the playoff series against Texas. Perez goes in streaks of either really good or concernedly bad (he loses his command).

Akin's problem is he leaves the ball over the heart of the plate and he doesn't have good enough stuff to get away with it. They're meatballs. We might get some good times from Baker now that he's up, but I would only expect a month or 2 at best from him before he returns to old habits. And Suarez is a starter who wants to be a starter. Who knows if he will go back to the bullpen? He'll have to go deeper into games if he wants to stay in the rotation, otherwise, I think he should be in the bullpen. But that's not what he is right now in this moment. He's a starter with a ERA in the 1s.

He is a starter filling in for an injury and 6 man rotation.  He won’t be a starter when Kremer comes back and we go to 5 man rotation.  He is the only guy that has started a game this season and not given you 6 innings at least 1 times.  That includes guys like Means, Wells, Povich Kremer & Irvin.  You can’t be a starter on a contending team and never go at least 6 innings, that is how you do wear out a bullpen having to get 10+ outs every turn through.  

[interloper]

17 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Counting the blown save last night.  1-0 lead.  9th inning.   Seattle brings Mikey in to close. HR to Roberts.  Warning track to Vaughn.   Two 9th inning save situations in his last three games.   Two home runs.  Two blown saves.

I mean, he's not a closer. That's on Seattle for trying to use him like that in a 1-0 game. He's a solid middle reliever, but shouldn't be overextended into high leverage like that. 

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

I mean, he's not a closer. That's on Seattle for trying to use him like that in a 1-0 game. He's a solid middle reliever, but shouldn't be overextended into high leverage like that. 

They look like they already tinkered with his knuckle curve.  Not as much break but still sharp and he was actually pretty consistent with it.  It’s a SSS but his overall control looks much better with Seattle.