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I cannot believe I'm going to sit here and watch Seth freaking Lugo shut us down in a do or die playoff game.  Put that statement into a thread back in April and you'd be called nuts.

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If we lose, I’m all in on not caring in the slightest about anything else that happens this postseason.

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4 minutes ago, Yossarian said:

I can't think of two baseball games that I have enjoyed less than these two games.   And I have sat through youth games where the pitchers can't throw strikes and the fielders can't field.   These games thoroughly took the air out me.   There was one hit that even made me perk up.  Just a couple turds for baseball games. 

I was just telling my wife the same thing.  I have watched terrible Orioles teams and always have enjoyed it.  I am talking about the 1988 team, teams where Daniel Cabrera was the ace, and teams where the team gave up 33 runs on the front end of a double header.  But this team somehow brought less joy for the last three months than those teams.   I guess expectations plays a part, but there was something that was just not fun about this club and quite can’t put my finger on it.

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Is Brandon Hyde going to pull out the “ we just need to do a better job” boilerplate or is he coming up with another way to say the same thing? 
 

It’s easy to be snarky right now. There’s choking under pressure and there’s whatever the team has done over the last couple months. “Choke” doesn’t begin to cover the gag they threw up the last two nights when the season was on the line. Fans leaving the stadium right now aren’t just disappointed, many of them feel betrayed. Hard to blame them. I wonder if Elias might feel the same way. 

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It’s simple. A team full of may-be’s and never-were’s is not a championship team. The only bona-fides star on this team is Burnes, and the only star in the making is Henderson. That’s just not enough. You need some people whom the others can look to in these big moments.

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I’m sure that this overreaction is due to disappointment. They tried their best, but injuries and issues with stranding runners ultimately caught up with them. To be fair, there were some great defensive plays that also made the difference.

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2 hours ago, baltfan said:

Elias needs to send a message to these guys that this isn’t going to fly next year.  He also needs to break up the apathetic team. 

Thank you. With new ownership, I hope we can sign a big-name FA.

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1 hour ago, Uli2001 said:

It’s simple. A team full of may-be’s and never-were’s is not a championship team. The only bona-fides star on this team is Burnes, and the only star in the making is Henderson. That’s just not enough. You need some people whom the others can look to in these big moments.

Not convinced Henderson is any kind of real star. Looks to be like Lamar. Fitting he struck out to end the game just like Lamar threw that garbage INT in January against the Chiefs (and played like crap in general). Neither one is considered a game changer who can win it all or carry a team.

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Add a couple of seasoned professionals who know how to win. Solid players who have been around a while. These young guys are talented for sure, but that’s not enough. They need to learn to play better as a team and know what it takes to win consistently. 
I honestly think they get caught up in reading about how good they are, not proving it on the field day after day.

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2 hours ago, WSFan said:

I’m sure that this overreaction is due to disappointment. They tried their best, but injuries and issues with stranding runners ultimately caught up with them. To be fair, there were some great defensive plays that also made the difference.

I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't try their best. The issue is that their best was found lacking in the playoffs once again.

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    • Uli2001
      10/2 Orioles vs Royals Wild Card Game #2

      By Uli2001 · Posted

      I don't think anyone is saying that they didn't try their best. The issue is that their best was found lacking in the playoffs once again.
    • Grt 2BA FL Gator
      The story of the year: RISP performance

      By Grt 2BA FL Gator · Posted

      I especially agree with this last paragraph. There are so few mistake pitches in the playoffs. Even today, I think we were about to put a 5 spot on Lugo there. He was on the ropes. Buts it’s the playoffs, he gets pulled and it’s match ups all the way down the line. We needed to be able to push a run or two across. Simplify things. And this is where it once again reminds of me of our playoff teams in the 2010’s. I came away from them very disillusioned with the HR or bust. I really thought we were moving away from that organizationally with how we drafted and developed. To me, 2023’s offense was so much more fun. And yet here we are again, HR or bust. 
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      By RavensNOsGuy · Posted

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      By SteveO · Posted

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    • dystopia
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      By dystopia · Posted

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    • EddeeEddee
      Where are the pollyannas?

      By EddeeEddee · Posted

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    • Barnaby Graves
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      By Barnaby Graves · Posted

      I’m not up on the latest analytical thinking—I am really not that kind of sports fan anymore—but walks?  I can’t imagine that organizationally they are discounting walks.  Our marquee young players seemed to distinguish themselves in the maturity of their approaches on their scouting reports and in their earlier play even at the major league level.  Contrast that with the last two days where we had like seven or eight Javy Baez’s (or whoever, feel like I’ve seen a lot of clips of that guy hacking at air).  How many high fastballs did they swing through or pop up?  And nobody adjusted.  The Royals had them completely lost and the council of hitting coaches obviously couldn’t fix it.  I don’t know man, everyone’s just regressed.  How many freaking times do you hear how it’s a “game of adjustments” and who really did that well in the second half, let alone the last two games?  They failed at that both macro and micro.

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