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Yankees losing 20-2.


Gurgi

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Hey guys, I have been reading the hangout for well over a year now but this is my first time posting. Although last night's loss to the Sox was utterly heartbreaking, turning on the tv this afternoon made everything seem a little bit better. Entering the bottom of the 5th inning the Yankees were being hammered 20 to 2 by the Cleveland Indians. This sure put a smile on my face, hopefully it did the same for all of you.

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