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12-02-2012 11:16 AM #1Plus Member since 11/03 Hall of Fame
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Eduardo A. Encina says the O's will dangle Tillman- Winter Meetings
That is just wrong. If the O's want to contend in 2013 they don't have the depth of decent starting pitching to trade Tillman for a MOO bat. The only decent starters they have to open the season with are Hammel, Chen, Tillman and Gonzalez. If they would trade any of them it would have to be for better starting pitching IMO.
What say you?
12-02-2012 11:21 AM #2
12-02-2012 11:28 AM #3
I say that Mr Encina, Mr Schmuck and Mr Kubatko have little idea what Mr Duquette is going to do.
12-02-2012 11:30 AM #4
The big concern with Tillman is that if he regresses, he is out of options so he would have to stay with the major league team and his stock would drop significantly faster then if he could be optioned to the minors. If you don't believe in Hammel or Gonzo, you can't really believe in Tillman until you see the results reproduced.
Besides, if you want a true impact bat, you have to give up quality, you aren't going to get it with spare parts like Arrieta.
12-02-2012 11:37 AM #5Plus Member Since 12/07 All-Star
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Agree! Tillman is at his highest value right now. I like him but was disappointed with him as most on here prior to last season. We can afford to trade him. NOW! For Butler or Dickey.
12-02-2012 11:37 AM #6
This is an extremely misleading title. In one of the article's 5 possibilities, which are clearly speculation, the writer says they MAY dangle Tillman or Matusz.
12-02-2012 11:38 AM #7
12-02-2012 11:47 AM #8
I say you might be right but I'm not as sure as you are. I would be scared to trade Tillman because he seemed to put it together last year, he's young, and inexpensive. At the same time, I don't think you can be sure that Tillman is the real deal over the long haul and that he can't be replaced.
12-02-2012 11:49 AM #9
12-02-2012 11:56 AM #10Tillman, 24, made the most significant strides this past season, going 9-3 with a 2.93 ERA in 15 starts. And Matusz, 25, turned his season around when he moved to the bullpen (1.35 ERA, 2 ER, 5 H in 13 1/3 relief innings), becoming a shut-down left-handed reliever who could be used situationally or for extended use.
The club will look to dangle Tillman and Matusz more so than Arrieta and Britton, who the team feels still have significant upsides.
But the Orioles are confident other teams will be intrigued by all four at the winter meetings.
Anyway, I don't mind them doing this. The connotation of "dangling" a player seems to be mostly saying that he's available and seeing how other teams value him. It doesn't seem like they'd be looking to move him just to move him, but if the right deal comes along, he's not untouchable.
12-02-2012 11:58 AM #11
12-02-2012 12:04 PM #12
2. Will the Orioles go into Nashville willing to spend the money to sign a big-ticket free agent?
( McClatchy-Tribune / October 5, 2012 )
Not with the way the free-agent market is now.
The Orioles have watched as other teams spent frivolously, remaining content they haven?t lost out on much.
Despite the early rumors about Josh Hamilton, pictured, the Orioles remain uncomfortable with the years and money Hamilton commands, not to mention the inherent risk that comes from committing to a player who has had drug and alcohol addiction problems in the past.
If anything, the Orioles still see re-signing outfielder Nate McLouth, who was the team?s best player in the postseason, as a priority.
The longer he remains on the market, however, the more likely he will get a sizable deal elsewhere.
The club is also eyeing its options to add another starting pitcher, but not for more than a one-year deal.
12-02-2012 12:08 PM #13
12-02-2012 12:11 PM #14Plus Member Since 09/03 Hall of Fame
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12-02-2012 12:11 PM #15