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I think you guys are being a bit reactionary when it comes to Jake being moved to the pen. His ERA--after that disastrous inning--is now 5.12, which is clearly bad, but not horrible in the AL East.

Moreover, his peripherals suggest he has been the victim of serious bad luck this year.

I'm not arguing the guy is a TOR starter, or even a #3 starter-- I never really have, and the hype and expectations for him earlier this year always seemed unwarranted. He has decent stuff but he lacks a lot--such as, for one thing, control--to make him an above average starter. But if he is given the whole year as a SP I'm sure he would finish with an ERA under 5, and that is a lot better than anyone in our system not named Hammel, Chen, and possibly Matusz or Britton can do.

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Arrieta doesn't belong in the Major Leagues. He clearly has flaws, and probably needs another pitch.

Well...let's see...Arrieta doesn't belong in the major leagues, Hunter doesn't belong in the major leagues...that leaves Matusz...who is sort of day to day whether he belongs in majors or not...Chen is OK middle of the road starter and Hammel has been pitching way over his lifetime stats and seems likely due for a comeback to earth in the next go round the A.L. Hmmm...that leaves us with pretty limited starters....hurry up Zach and hurry up Dylan Bundy, I guess.....the Macphail plan was always contingent upon Arrieta and Matusz both becoming top starters and that sure has not happened yet....guess we will see if the Dylan Bundy era turns out any better...in a year or two.

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Not sure how graduate school and professional baseball are comparable.

You guys have coaches and medical staff all over the place?

Not saying it is impossible, just seems really unlikely given his environment.

Glad you got diagnosed.

I'm not sure how much you know about ADD, and I don't mean to tell you anything you don't already know.

But there's nothing about baseball (or baseball organizations) that lead me to believe it would somehow be sensitive to the issue - I mean, I'm not sure why a coach would notice ADD, or even how a coach would know what to look for. Indeed, baseball culture is notoriously slow to notice all sorts of anomalous/problematic mental issues - including issues much more obvious than ADD. I would expect, at 25 or whatever, a diagnosis of ADD for Davis would have been a lot more likely while growing up, w/in the structure of a classroom, than by baseball's culture.

(I'm not sure how ADD would impact an athlete, either, game-wise. In retrospect, I was attracted to sports as a kid (including baseball) at least in part because its fixed-but-fluid environment created a space where my ADD wasn't intrusive. Not sure how this changes as the game gets more and more difficult, and faster and faster.)

With adults, ADD is pretty rarely diagnosed until some kind of (i) failure; or (more likely) (ii) some kind of legal trouble/crisis/etc. (To me, any field that require sustained intellectual work, across varying levels of interest, would generally be more likely to provide the moments of failure that provoke diagnosis.) Essentially, coping mechanisms that are built up over a lifetime stop being enough. There's a ton of co-morbidity w/ ADD, as well.

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