SBNATION: Why Ex-Oriole Bobby Grich will never make the HOF (+ why Jeter should not be first ballot)

[DrungoHazewood]

I agree, but the pro Jeter camp will point to his 5 gold gloves and say, his defense isn't as bad as all of us think.

I'm sure there are also folks who cite an Earth-centric model of the universe to make points, too.

[srock]

I'm sure there are also folks who cite an Earth-centric model of the universe to make points, too.

The reply I starting writing meant the same thing, but Drungo's is...

[OrioleMagic79]

This thread is a perfect illustration of how useless WAR is as a stat...and all of it's cousins...

I cannot stand the Yankees, especially Jeter, but this argument is completely asinine...

[Can_of_corn]

This thread is a perfect illustration of how useless WAR is as a stat...and all of it's cousins...

I cannot stand the Yankees, especially Jeter, but this argument is completely asinine...

WAR is kinda like democracy.

[weams]

WAR is kinda like democracy.

I like democracy. But no politics.

[Can_of_corn]

I like democracy. But no politics.

Sorry you missed the reference, I think it was a good one.

[SteveA]

Sorry you missed the reference, I think it was a good one.

Churchill's been dead 50 years.

[Can_of_corn]

Churchill's been dead 50 years.

You know I think you are right.

He is dead.

[weams]

I think Bobby should go hobnob at Cooperstown this weekend. Maybe one of the stores could build a diarama of his career achievements.

[weams]

Sorry you missed the reference, I think it was a good one.

Ah, you mean the plutocracy is like OBP one. Got it.

[russ snyder]

I think Booby should go hobnob at Cooperstown this weekend. Maybe one of the stores could build a diarama of his career achievements.

No, most of the comments will be something like, " Isn't that the guy who can't hold Alomar's jock?"

[weams]

No, most of the comments will be something like, " Isn't that the guy who can't hold Alomar's jock?"

Funny!

[russ snyder]

Funny!

Glad you think so.

Seriously, I think Grichs' HOF chances were seriously marred the first year he was on the ballot.

That year both Joe Morgan and Rod Carew were elcted as second baseman. He probably has been compared to Morgan ever since. Further, I believe that the only other second baseman elected by the writers since has been Ryne Sandberg in 2005. IMO, second basemen are undervalued by the writers. Grich and Whitaker deserve to be in. The Veteran's Commitee has elected the likes of Bill Mazerowski, why not Grich and Whitaker?

[Number5]

No, most of the comments will be something like, " Isn't that the guy who can't hold Alomar's jock?"

Pierzynski's available. Maybe he can hold it.

[russ snyder]

Pierzynski's available. Maybe he can hold it.

Good one.

He's probably too busy texting the young child from Africa with the bad teeth.