Hardy Extension Announced Today

[Can_of_corn]

If the O's had an opening at SS, would you go out this offseason and sign Hardy to a 3 years/$40? Hell yes, of course you would.

My plan A would be Kang.

[xian4]

Lol, I had to laugh at this, DEFENCE

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>O'Day said pitchers were high fiving when they heard about Hardy extension</p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">October 9, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[Malike]

If the O's had an opening at SS, would you go out this offseason and sign Hardy to a 3 years/$40? Hell yes, of course you would.

They probably could have gotten Stephen Drew for a song! Oh well, another misappropriation of funds for some to gnash their teeth about.

[backwardsk]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/09/10/dustin-pedroia-will-have-hand-surgery-thursday/ybFsIw143PaDes4Vu7cIaI/story.html

Left hand surgery two off seasons in a row.

Machado had 2 knee surgeries in consecutive years. He still out produced his contract.

[Malike]

My plan A would be Kang.

He profiles to get big money doesn't he? I've been following the KBO for a while and he looks like a solid player, but I honestly don't think he'll produce as much value as Hardy over the next three years. I mean, his line this year was incredible, but KBO pitching is bad and the league has experienced a roughly 40% increase in runs scored compared to 2012, and an 80% increase in HR's. I'm just not sure that's going to translate to more value for similar if not more money than Hardy. He's definitely an interesting player.

[Can_of_corn]

Machado had 2 knee surgeries in consecutive years. He still out produced his contract.

Machado is making 500K a year and is entering his age 22 season. The mole rat is 31 and making 25 times that.

Also hand/wrist/thumb issues worry me more then knees.

[webbrick2010]

Why does Pedroia's deal look bad? 4.8 rWAR in 2014.

Well if you believe in defensive metrics that indicate he is a way superior 2B than Schoop, that's fine

His OPS of .711 and OPS+ of 101 were career lows in 2014, and he finished the season with yet another wrist surgery.

He is signed thru his age 37 (2021) season, and 2B typically age worse than any other position.

It will be a terrible signing for the Red Sox

[Can_of_corn]

He profiles to get big money doesn't he? I've been following the KBO for a while and he looks like a solid player, but I honestly don't think he'll produce as much value as Hardy over the next three years. I mean, his line this year was incredible, but KBO pitching is bad and the league has experienced a roughly 40% increase in runs scored compared to 2012, and an 80% increase in HR's. I'm just not sure that's going to translate to more value for similar if not more money than Hardy. He's definitely an interesting player.

I have no idea how the market will shape up. He is 27, plays solid defense at short and it looks like he will have plus power for his position. Also no back or shoulder issues and he won't be a 10/5 player.

Any idea if the Korean posting system got changed with the Japanese one?

[scOtt]

Angelos didn't nix it.. IIRC Brady strongly recommended against it

It only ever seemed to me to be a smokescreen to get Hardy. Whether Brady "nixxed it" or not. MHO.

[backwardsk]

Well if you believe in defensive metrics that indicate he is a way superior 2B than Schoop, that's fine

His OPS of .711 and OPS+ of 101 were career lows in 2014, and he finished the season with yet another wrist surgery.

He is signed thru his age 37 (2021) season, and 2B typically age worse than any other position.

It will be a terrible signing for the Red Sox

Do you think the Red Sox will be unable to keep buying players? If not, why's the contract so bad?

[Malike]

I have no idea how the market will shape up. He is 27, plays solid defense at short and it looks like he will have plus power for his position. Also no back or shoulder issues and he won't be a 10/5 player.

Any idea if the Korean posting system got changed with the Japanese one?

I asked Dan but I haven't gotten word back. I haven't read anything saying it has.

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[Can_of_corn]

I asked Dan but I haven't gotten word back. I haven't read anything saying it has.

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I haven't either but if they leaned on the NPB it would make sense that they would also lean on the KBO.

[Tx Oriole]

I don't think I'll like it much if the rumored deal is correct. I'd begrudgingly accept a 3/36 deal but not be psyched about it. Let's see how much worse it actually is.

It doesn't matter to me how much JJ will gets paid in this deal or the years. JJ is

a need. IMO. And does keep Manny at third. But main thing is the O's in the

playoffs so I am not worried about what players make or the years they are

signed for.

[Crazysilver03]

Lol, I had to laugh at this, DEFENCE

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>O'Day said pitchers were high fiving when they heard about Hardy extension</p>? Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">October 9, 2014</a></blockquote>

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That's pretty awesome.

[Malike]

I haven't either but if they leaned on the NPB it would make sense that they would also lean on the KBO.

Absolutely, if they haven't changed it yet, I'm sure it's coming down the road. The KBO is beginning to get scouted as hard as the NPB is now. They have some very interesting players.

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