Don't know about you...but I want Cespedes

[waroriole]

And the opt out the opt out that the Orioles will definitely not agree to which puts him completely out of the running for Manny for forever.

The opt out is giving the O's a convenient principle to stick to.

[Roll Tide]

Objectively, signing Cespedes, Alvarez and Kazmir/Latos makes us a better team than CD and Kazmir/Latos.

I think the Os have the funds for Davis, Alvarez, and Kazmir. Wieters falls off next offseason so the up tick for Wieters is temporary. Plus Trumbo is a one year proposition

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[El Gordo]

I think the Os have the funds for Davis, Alvarez, and Kazmir. Wieters falls off next offseason so the up tick for Wieters is temporary. Plus Trumbo is a one year proposition

We are better with Cespedes in RF than Davis in RF.

[Frobby]

Why keep a potential hall of fame talent when you can replace him with a journeyman, right?

So sick of Duquette's antiquated ways. Develop some competency and realize it isn't the 1990's anymore.

Don't get your panties in a bunch about this just yet. There's a lot that can happen between now and when Manny is a free agent.

[Can_of_corn]

Don't get your panties in a bunch about this just yet. There's a lot that can happen between now and when Manny is a free agent.

I think that if the O's are not flexible in regards to including an opt out they have close to no chance of extending Manny.

[Bradysburns]

I don't think that means much. They committed $66 mm to Markakis in 2009, and $85 mm to Jones in 2012. Prices have inflated since then. A player as valuable as Markakis or Jones (based on their age and historical performance at the time they were signed) would cost $100 mm at today's prices.

I don't think I would mind an opt-out as much (if at all) as long as it were mutual. If it puts ALL the power in the player's hands, I agree with DD. Forget it.

[Can_of_corn]

I don't think I would mind an opt-out as much (if at all) as long as it were mutual. If it puts ALL the power in the player's hands, I agree with DD. Forget it.

Then you can't sign any of those players.

Unless the owners somehow get them banned in the next CBA.

[Bradysburns]

We are better with Cespedes in RF than Davis in RF.

How about Cespedes in right, Kim in left and Davis at first, with Trumbo DH'ing. I know, I know. Put down the hookah. It ain't happening. but one can dream. One can dream.

[Bradysburns]

Then you can't sign any of those players.

Unless the owners somehow get them banned in the next CBA.

Hmm. Are you sure a mutual opt-out couldn't be part of any of those contracts? That's not exactly a new idea - the mutual opt-out.

[Can_of_corn]

Hmm. Are you sure a mutual opt-out couldn't be part of any of those contracts? That's not exactly a new idea - the mutual opt-out.

It could be but I don't see why any player that can command an opt out would agree to it.

[Can_of_corn]

A player of his caliber and age at time of free agency will not, and quite frankly should not, sign a deal that doesn't include an opt out.

Not unless the team in question is offering a hefty premium in regards to years and/or AAV.

[weams]

Hmm. Are you sure a mutual opt-out couldn't be part of any of those contracts? That's not exactly a new idea - the mutual opt-out.

Yes it is. MLB contracts are guaranteed. Club options were a thing for a time.

[BillyRipsRevenge]

Watching him try and casual backhand, kick that ball and then give up on the play in the World Series was all I needed to see. He handed them an inside the park Home Run and looked like he could care less. You kick the ball, go after it! The Left fielder who was further away from the ball had to sprint after it because Cespedes gave up and started walking. Don't want a player like that in Baltimore. Not even for $5 mil a year.

[terps19]

Watching him try and casual backhand, kick that ball and then give up on the play in the World Series was all I needed to see. He handed them an inside the park Home Run and looked like he could care less. You kick the ball, go after it! The Left fielder who was further away from the ball had to sprint after it because Cespedes gave up and started walking. Don't want a player like that in Baltimore. Not even for $5 mil a year.

I dont see him walking away from the ball??? He turned and started to go after it and the LF looked like he was going full out... I dunno